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Old 20th May 2018, 21:34
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JU88C-6 Wnr 360316 Crash on 4.4.43 at Saint Cloud

Hi,

I am looking for information about this crash of JU88 Wnr 360316 from IV/KG40 on 4.4.43: location, crew names, etc..

it made a forced landing at Saint Cloud (West of Paris) because of engine troubles and was destroyed at 30%.


It would seem that the same aircraft disappeared later on in Biscay since I find a thread:

Ju 88C-6, 360316, Schmiedberger, Uffz. Xaver, , 9.(NJ), ZG 1, , 2N+GT, , 10-Jun-44, KIA with crew, probably shot down by S/L Jepson of 409 Sq. , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.241; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , North of Le Havre, 100%, F

Do you think possible that a 30% destroyed JU88 be repaired and fly again ?

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Old 20th May 2018, 22:01
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Re: JU88C-6 Wnr 360316 Crash on 4.4.43 at Saint Cloud

Yes, not destroyed. Give Google translate a break, please.
KG 40 Damaged 30% Er (repair/needing parts "repair on factory level").
It went to JFM GL FRB Villacoublay, Paris, for repair - ready 17.11.43.
Again (for overhaul or small repair) in 05.44.
III/ZG 1 2N+GT lost 10.06.44.
(F Uffz. Xavier Schmiedberger,
BF Uffz. Heinz Masmeier and
BO Gefr. Erwin Lamla killed)

PS: 50-80% usually not repaired.
depends if it can be recovered;

France yes usually repaired if below 60%.

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Old 21st May 2018, 07:14
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Re: JU88C-6 Wnr 360316 Crash on 4.4.43 at Saint Cloud

Thanks Ed

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Re: JU88C-6 Wnr 360316 Crash on 4.4.43 at Saint Cloud

Ultra CX/MSS/R205(C),7
From ZG 1, Technical Officer, on 30/5 [1944]:
To strength:
III./ZG 1. Ju 88 C-6, W.Nr. 360316 on 26/5 from VILLA and W.Nr. 750241 on 28/5 from VILLA.
Off strength:
(Roman) (smudge) ZG 1: Ju 88 R-2 W.Nr. 751047 on 27/5 with 80% bomb damage to Workshop Orléans.
Ju 88 R-2 W.Nr. 360044 on 28/5 to Duty Flight Angers, Fliegerkorps X.
Ju 88 C-6, W.Nr. 750907 on 30/5 with 60% bomb damage to Workshop Vannes.
NOTES:
1) Villa presumably Villacoublay.
2) Works Numbers not identified. Vannes area has been identified with (Roman) I./ZG 1 (MSS/T155/43).
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Re: JU88C-6 Wnr 360316 Crash on 4.4.43 at Saint Cloud

Appreciated, Ed

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Re: JU88C-6 Wnr 360316 Crash on 4.4.43 at Saint Cloud

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Beale View Post
Ultra CX/MSS/R205(C),7
From ZG 1, Technical Officer, on 30/5 [1944]:
To strength:
III./ZG 1. Ju 88 C-6, W.Nr. 360316 on 26/5 from VILLA and W.Nr. 750241 on 28/5 from VILLA.
Off strength:
(Roman) (smudge) ZG 1: Ju 88 R-2 W.Nr. 751047 on 27/5 with 80% bomb damage to Workshop Orléans.
Ju 88 R-2 W.Nr. 360044 on 28/5 to Duty Flight Angers, Fliegerkorps X.
Ju 88 C-6, W.Nr. 750907 on 30/5 with 60% bomb damage to Workshop Vannes.
NOTES:
1) Villa presumably Villacoublay.
2) Works Numbers not identified. Vannes area has been identified with (Roman) I./ZG 1 (MSS/T155/43).
same difference

360316 Ju 88 C-6 III/ZG 1 (Luftwaffe)
Known to unit strength list from Villacoblay on 26.05.44 [as C6 360316 in TNA HW 5 CX/MSS/R.205/C/7.]

360044 Ju 88 R-2 I/ZG 1 (Luftwaffe)
Known off unit strength, sent to Duty Flight Angers (Fliegerkorps X) 28.05.44 [as R2 360044 in TNA HW 5 CX/MSS/R.205/C/7.]

751047 Ju 88 R-2 I/ZG 1 (Luftwaffe)
Known damaged by enemy bombing (80%) off unit stength and sent to workshops Orleans 27.05.44 [as Ju 88 R2 751047 in TNA HW 5 Ultra CX/MSS/ R.205/C/7.]

750907 Ju 88 C-6 I/ZG 1 (Luftwaffe)
Known damaged by enemy bombing (60%), off unit strength and sent to workshops Vannes 30.05.44 [TNA HW 5 CX/MSS/R.205/C/7.]
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