Correct designation of Lichtenstein radar

[Roger Gaemperle]

Hello,

I have found variations of the FuG 220, FuG 202 and FuG 212 designations in various post-war books as well as wartime Allied intelligence reports. Which one is correct (i.e. used in German wartime documents)?

FuG 220: Lichtenstein SN2, SN 2, SN-2
FuG 202: Lichtenstein B/C-1, B/C, BC
FuG 212: Lichtenstein C1, C-1

Thanks!

Roger

[Revi16]

Perhaps the answers are in here?

https://www.cdvandt.org/D-Luft-T-4103-FuG%20202-Li.pdf
https://www.cdvandt.org/D-Luft-T-410...aet-FuG212.pdf
https://www.cdvandt.org/D-Luft-T-411...tehandbuch.pdf

[Roger Gaemperle]

Thank you. I had checked these wartime manuals already, but they don't contain the code names, i.e. Lichtenstein etc.

[ju55dk]

FuG 220
BAMA

Junker

[Roger Gaemperle]

Thank you very much Junker! That's a very interesting document. Do you know the date when this was published? I assume sometimes late 1944 as the Streuwellen IV, V, VI are mentioned. Based on the document it seems that Taunus was linked to Streuwelle VI. I have not seen this in any other documents so far.

The indicated maximum range (5 km) is lower than what most other sources I found (post-war books and wartime Allied intelligence reports) stated. The consensus was about 8 km, but it seems that this is not correct and it was only 5 km.

I assume there was no similar data sheet for the B/C and C1?

[richdlc]

Roger - this link will be of interest. It's from the 'War Thunder' flight sim game but these guys seem to be uber geeks when it comes to knowledge. I am using some of this info for the chapter I am writing for our He 219 book

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.p...j-wrong-radar/

[ju55dk]

Sadly they are not that correct using the 2a to 2d suffix to FuG 220 wich was a post war invention by Greene.
They have no sources from Bundesarchiv.
Junker

[David E. Brown]

Jørn,

Interesting.

Gebhard Aders in his book uses these lowercase letter designations (Appendix 10). I wonder where he derived them from? What does Fritz Trenkle have to say on this in his book (not in my library unfortunately)? Presumably both gentlemen consulted official sources in their research. Nevertheless, perhaps the first three versions of the SN2 (i.e. a,b,c) did not use these designations, but it does appear that the “d” suffix was used - at least on the aircraft themselves.

Photographs reveal that in most cases features of the radar type was indicated on the fin of Ju88G-6s and Bf110G-4s (or also the nose of the He219). It was occasionally painted in black, but more often in white where it tended to be obscured by reflection or camouflage paint. Sometimes one sees simply a Roman numeral (IV, V, VI) with no other letters, other times with one or both letters in uppercase.

For example, I would interpret VD/R or V/DR in the following manner:

• V = SN2 frequency range 5 (V)
• D = SN2 “D” version (with slanted dipoles)
• R = Rückwärts (rearward-looking attachment)

In addition to this use for the FuG 220 Lichtenstein SN2, such nomenclature was used on aircraft with the FuG 218 Neptun VR, and FuG 240 Berlin N 1a. It is interesting that the FuG 240 Berlin N 1a used a lower case letter as a designation per official documents.

Hopefully some information can be presented here to add clarity to determining if such designations were used officially or not.

Best,

David

[jschreiber]

Hello

Based on Fritz Trenkle books, here a summary of the Lichtenstein family
Not certified typo free !

Regards

Jean Schreiber

[Matolion]

Roman numeral (IV, V, VI) = the frequency band in which the radar operated