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Old 2nd August 2012, 01:01
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american F-102A crasehd 30 miles NW Strasbourg France

Hey all,

I allredy evocated that possible crashed F-102 in precedent thread in 2011 on that forum. Plane model was not identified on that time.

I just today was on crash site and...without metal detector, found some more nice parts, and between them, a little identification plate. Here what is written on it:

AIRCRAFT MOD F102 A
PART NO8- 12020 - (62)5 DO
CONT NO F- 36- 600- 29264
SERIAL NO SPARE 11 L 4
...NTR CUST
..INSP INSP
...DIFICATION INCORPORATED

Maybe am I mistaking in reading the "625" number just before DO (the plate is a little broken there): so "625" is not totaly sure; the 6 and 2 are just possibilities; but the 5 is 100% OK, and rest of plate is 100% OK and sure to read!

Could that plate maybe help to identify the plane...and its date of crash... and pilot???

No idea about it at all!!!

Thanks to the wild boar who dig out that art for me!!!

And thanks for any possible help!

Mathias
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Old 2nd August 2012, 07:29
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Re: american F-102A crasehd 30 miles NW Strasbourg France

maybe this one : 14. July 1969 near Ingweiler, F-102A-70-CO 56-1237 crashed,

sorry no further informations.

I had only 3 F-102 lossses in my database and the other 2 are too far from Strasbourg.


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Old 2nd August 2012, 20:26
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Re: american F-102A crasehd 30 miles NW Strasbourg France

Thanks! Should be the good one, indeed!

With your help I can now easely try to find it in the local newspapers archives.

Ingwiller is just about 10 miles from crash site; it would be estonishing it gave several ones crashed F-102A in that wooden area!

Could the CO 56 number mean Convair /year (of built) 1956 in the serial you gave?

Is mine identification plate, as I believe, one plate of just a part of the plane...and not the one of the plane (I would have been to lucky finding the serial of plane !!!)

Thanks for your help!

Mathias
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Old 3rd August 2012, 07:18
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Re: american F-102A crasehd 30 miles NW Strasbourg France

Hi Mathias, thats correct - the CO stand for the manufacturer Convair and the 56 in the serial for the year 1956.

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Old 12th August 2012, 20:24
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Re: american F-102A crasehd 30 miles NW Strasbourg France

Thanks Khorat!

Fact that you have just 3 crashed F-102A in your list do mean that there just were 3 F-102A that crashed, or that you maybe just have part of the list of the crashed ones? (maybe more?)

I believe the one you gave (Ingwiller) is the good one, and I will soon check in local newspapers archives; I keep in touch and will share results!

Thanks!

Mathias
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Old 16th August 2012, 11:00
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Re: american F-102A crasehd 30 miles NW Strasbourg France

It appears that F-102A of 526th Fighter Interceptor Squadron (Ramstein, GE) was involved in a mid-air collision with F-102A 55-1263 near Ingweiler.

A/c # 263 was damaged.

Picture here of # 237 here: http://www.usarmygermany.com/Units/A...h%20AD%201.htm

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Old 17th August 2012, 19:13
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Re: american F-102A crasehd 30 miles NW Strasbourg France

Hi Leendert and Khorat,

I have checked in our local newspaper archives and you were right; my plane near Ingweileir is the one crashed on july 14th 1969!

Newspapers (16 july 1969) explains that 3 planes were flying together, and two had a light mid-air collision. Both others could land safe at their base (it was not Ramstein but another big US airfield near Luxembourg (I cannot remember the name, begins with D..., sorry I have let the article at my office).

Pilot of the crashed F-102A airplane was Lt Jimmy McIlwain; he bailed out, and landed safe about 15km from crash site. Crash happeed near village of Lichtenberg in the forest; plane maed a vertical dive, and exploded in teh forest as hitting. There is a huge hole in the ground there, and thousands of little parts from the plane all around.

It appears that it had a four colour camouflage as it crashed (hell brown, dark green, kind of black, and white.

Do you know if McIlwain is still with us?

Maybe a pict of him, or biography?

Do you believe such a plane in 1969 could have a bomb on board on that day, or ammunation, or did just the impact create a 6 meters bright, 3 meters deep cratere in stone earth???

Thakns for your successfull help!

Mathias
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Old 18th August 2012, 23:20
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Re: american F-102A crasehd 30 miles NW Strasbourg France

Mathias,

Ramstein was the home base of 526th FIS, not necessarily where the other two F-102s made their landing.
Other USAF bases in greater area included Bitburg, Spangdahlem and Zweibrücken.

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Old 19th August 2012, 00:02
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Re: american F-102A crasehd 30 miles NW Strasbourg France

you are right Leendert; thanks!

the artiche gave Spangdalhem (sorry, my memory is to bad, name did not begin with D!)as base from where the crasehd airplane was supposed to come (or the other ones).

Pilot McIlwain landed on village Uberach in Alsace, with parachute.

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