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Old 19th September 2009, 10:30
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question for experts about aircraft numbers located in a "gruppe"

hello does anyone can answer my question,
in a gruppe did the unit had always a vast numbers of planes or not, if they had how many planes did a gruppe consist?
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Old 19th September 2009, 12:00
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Re: question for experts about aircraft numbers located in a "gruppe"

IIRC, gruppe usually had circa 30 planes, later war Jagdgruppen circa 40. But the numbers fluctated depending on losses and how easy it was got replacements.
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Old 19th September 2009, 12:07
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Re: question for experts about aircraft numbers located in a "gruppe"

thanks Juha realy appreciated,
I am esspecialy looking for guppenumber in rumpfcode of a stuka plane that was with St.G 2 immelman in may 1940
what i found already is T6+??
is that gruppecode in alfabethal order ?
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Old 19th September 2009, 12:28
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Re: question for experts about aircraft numbers located in a "gruppe"

For JGs
http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhorta/jgstruc.htm

philippe, someplace I have a diagram of the letters assigned for bombers. Will scan and post when I find it.

In the mean time have a look here, http://www.rlm.at/cont/archiv03_e.htm

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Old 19th September 2009, 16:28
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Re: question for experts about aircraft numbers located in a "gruppe"

T6+ is the Gruppe code for Stukageschwader 2
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Old 19th September 2009, 16:30
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Re: question for experts about aircraft numbers located in a "gruppe"

Slip of the finger - sorry. T6+ is the geschwader code for Stukageschwader 2
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Old 19th September 2009, 17:38
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Re: question for experts about aircraft numbers located in a "gruppe"

thanks Bill and Kutcha for your answers,
i am particulary looking for II St.G 2
were stuka with werknummer 5136 was shot down at 12 may 1940
i have already all the details but i am trying to make compleet the Code from the plane
i know also that the pilot Dieter Pekrun was with the 9 th staffel
maybe it helps
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Old 19th September 2009, 18:04
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Re: question for experts about aircraft numbers located in a "gruppe"

If Pekrun and his aircraft belonged to the 9th Staffel, wouldn't they have belonged to III./Stukageschwader 2? Gruppe III would have included Staffeln 7-9.
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Old 19th September 2009, 18:28
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Re: question for experts about aircraft numbers located in a "gruppe"

bill, i just have looked at after the battle book from france,
it was I stab St.G2 and not II
I will recheck were i found that particular info from that pekrun was with 9 th staffel ?,
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Old 19th September 2009, 20:08
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Re: question for experts about aircraft numbers located in a "gruppe"

I Stab./ Stukageschwader 2 had the code T6+?B.
The ? represents the missing letter for 'your' Stuka. Each aircraft had its own individual letter to denote its tactical position within the Staffel.
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