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stuka belly landing or crash area Chartres france
hello,
i was wondering of any of the readers might have info on a incident that happened in the area of chartres france the incident is a stuka that probably did a belly landing(the part wouldn't be in such a good condition by a crash) the reason why i ask this is because a few years ago i bought a ruder from a stuka that wasn't broken or folded it was still in a very good condition.the previous owner told me the farmer used it as a fence and stayed there many years. probably french civilians undid this part from the plane the prev owner also told me that he knew about engine parts that were removed from the plane. So if there might be someone who could or might have additional info feel free to react. kind regards phil |
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Re: stuka belly landing or crash area Chartres france
at approximately 2015 June 6, 1944 the 354FS and 357FS of the 355th FG intercepted approximately 15 Ju-87s near Chartres/Janville and decimated the formation.
Several of the Stukas attempted to crash land to escape the Mustangs and this could be one of those. Regards, Bill Marshall
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Re: stuka belly landing or crash area Chartres france
hello bill,
thanks for the fast reply , do you have any idea about the unit of stuka ? thanks phil |
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Re: stuka belly landing or crash area Chartres france
Phil,
You may want to read the text on http://www.lwag.org/forums/archive/i...hp/t-3040.html Unit appears to have been SG 103. Regards, Leendert |
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Re: stuka belly landing or crash area Chartres france
hello leendert,
thanks a lot it is clearing up a question i had a long time i have asked a friend to post a picture of the tail coz the colors are still very good visible .The way its painted , i mean its shape is also strange to me or this might be special for this unit. feel free to contact me i can forward them to you also if you wish kind regards, phil |
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Re: stuka belly landing or crash area Chartres france
Hi
Here are Phil’s photos. I am not an aviation engineering expert, but this does look like a Ju87 rudder. For unknown reasons it appears that the RLM 71 dunkelgrün has largely remained in place, but the RLM 70 schwarzgrün has deteriorated and is lost. Ian Last edited by ianatheling; 14th March 2012 at 23:34. |
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Re: stuka belly landing or crash area Chartres france
thanks Ian,
its a strange pointed form deos it has to do with its unit or color profile? any advice ould as usual appreciated phil |
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Re: stuka belly landing or crash area Chartres france
Hi Phil
Looking at several profiles and photos, the division between the RLM 71 and the (vanished) RLM 70 looks OK to me. Ian |
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Re: stuka belly landing or crash area Chartres france
Here are the machines that were reported lost in the records I have:
Ju 87D-3, 2653, Klunth, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew wounded due to enemy fire. Crashed., Ju 87A per loss., Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ofw. Rumpler, , Ju 87H-6, , n.n., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Notlandung due to enemy fire. Bf wounded., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 40%, H, Bf Ofw. Marschering, , Ju 87C-3, 1289, Uhlhaas, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew wounded due to enemy fire. Crashed., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 80%, H, Bf Ofw. Gottschalk, , Ju 87, 1247, Genrich, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew missing due to enemy fire., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ofw. Ochmanik, , Ju 87C, 1214, Rüchenschütze, Uffz., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Killed due to enemy fire. Bf wounded. Crashed., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ogefr. Schröder, , Ju 87C-4, 1194, n.n., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Notlandung due to enemy fire. Bf wounded., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 60%, H, Bf Ofw. Kather, , Ju 87C-4, 2094, Wirner, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew wounded due to enemy fire. Notlandung., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 60%, H, Bf Uffz. Steyer, , Ju 87D-3, 2398, Skupin, Oblt., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Killed due to enemy fire. Bf wounded. Notlandung., Ju 87 (V3) WNr. 7868 per loss, corrected., Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/780, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.1, , Voves, 65%, H, Bf Ofw. John, , Ju 87B-6, 2196, Rachau, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Wounded due to enemy fire. Bf killed. Crashed., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ofw. Micke, , |
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