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LG1 losses 16/17-12-44 to 25/26-12-1944
Are there any known losses for LG1 in the period above please. I have details of the loss of L1+CN crew of Uffz. Fischer on the 23/24-12-1944, and the 1944 project shows a loss on the 18-12-1944 crew of Ofhr. Mathis with no aircraft or crew details,
Thanks Brian Bines |
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Re: LG1 losses 16/17-12-44 to 25/26-12-1944
17-12-1944: Flugplatz Ahlhorn Bruchlandung nach Flaktreffer
6 Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+HP FF Lt Berthold Michael - no fate listed No other crew details. 26-12-1944: südl Lüttich - Flak 1 Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+GH 331287 FF Lt Walter Schmidt - MIA BO Ogefr Eberhardt Wächter - PoW BF Ogefr Heinz Maslowski - PoW BS Gefr Karl Dietzhoff - PoW 26-12-1944: Varel, Absturz beim Start 2 Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+DK 330808 FF Uffz Theodor Bäcker - KIA BO Uffz Arthur Wese - KIA BF Reinhard Oswald - KIA BS Uffz Otto Brandl - KIA 26-12-1944: Maasbrücke Namur Flak I./LG-1 Ju-88S-3 L1+AB 330976 FF Hptm Rüdiger Pannenborg - KIA BO FjUffz Klaus Kleinecke - KIA BF Uffz Eduard Scharrer - KIA BS Uffz Karl Esders - KIA 26-12-1944: Raum St Vith, Luftkampf mit Nachtjäger 1 Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+EH 330807 FF Ofhr Hans Leweck - MIA BO ?? BF Uffz Mathias Bauer - MIA BS Uffz Max Linke - (listed as VW but don't know what that refers to) 26-12-1944: Raum Marneffe, Flak 2 Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+KK 330705 FF Uffz Gerhard Jahn - KIA BO Ogefr Kurt Hesse - MIA BF Fw Georg Kurt - MIA BS Uffz Josef Loidl - KIA 26-12-1944: Maasbrücke Namur Flak 5 Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+?N 330976 FF Lt Heinrich Schmidt - PoW BO Fw Sieghard Ginsberg - MIA BF Uffz Gerhard Knecht - MIA BS Fw Heinrich Schuster - MIA 26-12-1944: Ahlhorn, Absturz beim Start 4 Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+?? 330932 FF Uffz Heinz van Dreumel - (listed as VL but don't know what that refers to) BO ?? BF Uffz Erich Huhn - KIA BS Ogefr Karl Schmidt - (listed as VL but don't know what that refers to) There are also 5 losses listed for 18-12-1944. Source: Die Geschichte Des Lehrgeschwaders 1 Vol 2 1942-1945 by Peter Taghon
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Re: LG1 losses 16/17-12-44 to 25/26-12-1944
18-12-1944: Raum Aachen Luftkampf mit Nachtjäger
4 Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+?M 330931 FF Lt Horst Bullmann - MIA BO Fw Georg Leppelt - MIA BF Uffz Helmut Duda - MIA BS Fw Xaver Lichtinger - MIA 18-12-1944: 12km nördl. Kevelaer Luftkampf mit Nachtjäger 4 Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+?M 330685 FF Ofhr Fritz Mathis - KIA BO Gefr Otto Horländer - KIA BF Ogefr Bruno Lechler - KIA BS Gefr Heinrich Heitmann - KIA 18-12-1944: 1km SO Bocholt Luftkampf mit Nachtjäger 5 Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+?N 330817 FF Fw Gottfried Wagler - KIA BO Oblt Alfred Gose - KIA No other crew details known 18-12-1944: Raum Aachen Luftkampf mit Nachtjäger 6 Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+?P 330885 FF Ofhr Horst Panzer - MIA BO Ogefr Rudolf Schneider - MIA BF Uffz Werner Uhlig - MIA BS Ogefr Erich Schröter - MIA 18-12-1944: Münster-Handorf Bruchlandung wegen Motorstörung ? Staffel Ju-88S-3 L1+?? FF Uffz Hans Fischer No other crew details known The dates in Bold Red may indicate an error in the chronology of the list. They are all listed between a loss on 09-12-1944 and the loss on 17-12-1944 so they may of been losses for 16-12-1944 and have been entered with an incorrect day in the publication. The final loss shown for 18-12-1944 is entered between the loss on 17-12-1944 and the next loss on 23-12-1944 so believe this is a correctly listed entry. There are 4 losses for Christmas Eve but none for Christmas Day. Source: As previous post
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Re: LG1 losses 16/17-12-44 to 25/26-12-1944
Hucks, thank you very much for this info, for the 26/27th I have details of the Gerhard Jahn, Heinrich Schmidt and Heinz von Dreumel crews. With von Dreumel I do not have the aircraft code and I have the wn as 330932.
The vw I believe indicates wounded while vl would be injured. I have vol 1 of the LG1 history but cannot afford the vol 2 at present so your help is much appreciated, Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: LG1 losses 16/17-12-44 to 25/26-12-1944
On the 16-12-1944 there was also an additional casualty when Ogefr Horst Schumann was injured in a motorbike accident.
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Re: LG1 losses 16/17-12-44 to 25/26-12-1944
Thanks again Hucks the other ones I have are :-
1/ L1+KM took off from Aalhorn at 1730hrs on 23-12-44 fell to a N/F at 2000hrs near Hannut Ff Fw Albert Johanntges - POW injured B Uffz Joachim Flaskamper- POW injured Bf Ogef Willy Conrad - POW Bm Uffz Rodow - fate unknown 2/ L1+CN took off Aalhorm around 2330 hrs 23-12-44, attacked by a N/F then became lost, crew baled out near Nijmegen 0435hrs on 24th FF Uffz Hans Fischer -POW B Ogef Theodor Vychodil - POW Bf Uffz Hermann Hubner - believed came down behind German lines Bm Uffz Walter Strube - believed came down behind German lines Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: LG1 losses 16/17-12-44 to 25/26-12-1944
Brian Bines,
Uffz. Hermann Hübner KIA Ysselsteyn AL-2-36 Uffz. Walter Strübe MIA Regards Frans A |
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Re: LG1 losses 16/17-12-44 to 25/26-12-1944
Fran A, thanks very much for the information, the Ff and B told their captors that the Bf and Bm baled out first so the two prisoners thought their two comrades had landed on the German side,
Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: LG1 losses 16/17-12-44 to 25/26-12-1944
Here are the four entries for 23-12-1944:
2 Staffel Raum Frankfurt Absturz infolge Kraftstoffmangels Ju-88S-3 L1+FK BS Ofw Ernst Willmann - VL No other crew details listed. 1 Staffel Raum Marx Abstirz infolge Motorschadens Ju-88S-3 L1+FH 330962 BF Ofw Richard Freihöfer - VL No other crew details listed. 5 Staffel Ahlhorn, Absturz beim Start Ju-88S-3 L1+?? FF Ofhr Hans Weyermann - KIA BO Uffz Heinz Dörfel - KIA BF Ogefr Alfred Schwab - KIA BS Ogefr Josef Austrup - KIA 4 Staffel Raum Hannut, Luftkampf mit Nachtjäger Ju-88S-3 L1+KM 330933 FF Fw Albert Johänntges - PoW BO Uffz Joachim Flaskämper - PoW BF Ogefr Willi Konrad - PoW BS Uffz Wilhelm Rudow - KIA
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Re: LG1 losses 16/17-12-44 to 25/26-12-1944
And the three for Christmas Eve...
3 Staffel Eyller See/Nieukerk Luftkampf mit Nachtjäger Ju-88S-3 L1+CL 330687 FF Fw Rudolf Deutscher - KIA BO Ogefr Paul Heinrich - MIA BF Uffz Horst Tucholski - KIA BS Uffz Ernst Franke - MIA 5 Staffel Horssen/Nijmegen Absturz nach Beschuss durch Nachtjäger Ju-88S-3 L1+CN 330955 FF Uffz Hans Fischer - PoW BO Ogefr Theo Vychodil - PoW BF Uffz Hermann Hübner - MIA BS Uffz Walter Strube - MIA 6 Staffel Zielgebiet Absturz Ju-88S-3 L1+?P 330970 BS Uffz Hans Scheuba - MIA No other crew details listed.
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