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Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43
Hello all
According of many sources (T.Wood,net,.....) (78.) 06/09/43=B-17 (3 km. W Mailly-le-camp) 12h.10 (79.) 06/09/43=B-17 (6 km W.Troyes) 12h.17...7 mn LATER (80.) 06/09/43=B-17 (LENS) 12h.29....12 mn LATER For his 80th claim,the place and the time,it's IMPOSSIBLE. LENS (north of france) being distant of 300km...and do it in 12.mn!!!! Does anyone have an idea about this nonsense?? Michel |
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43
Hello Michel,
in JFV Vol. 10/IV the following claims of Major Egon Mayer of Stab/JG 2 are listed: 6 Sep 1943 77 B-17 12.10 3 km west of Mailly-le-Camp 78 B-17 12.17 7 km west of Troyes 79 B-17 12.29 Sens. Sens is not far from Troyes. 22 Sep 1943 80 Spitfire 17.17 east of Lisieux 81 Spitfire 17.20 east of Lisieux. Regards Leo |
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43
Ah!!!it makes more sense!! that's the idea I had!
Thank you very much Leo. B Regards Michel |
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43
is that him?
http://www.aircrewremembered.com/Kra.../?q=Mayer+Egon because "Mayer" is a common name in germany ... best regards ghost
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43
Egon Mayer is well known and it is him
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43
i'm sorry for asking ...
thought the link rounds off the thread? greetings ghost
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43
Hello all
I studied the new facts:there remains a problem If we base ourselves on the affirmations of J.Prien: (79.) "abschus" ,(80.)?? for other sourceslace SENS 12h.35 However no B-17 crashed in the area of SENS the closest crash are: 42-30000 92°BGroup,place "Estissac" 40 km of SENS 42-30203 388°BGroup,place "Coudray" 68 km of SENS The distances beeing too important,this one seems UNFOUNDED. NOW THERE IS THE "HIC" According to all other sources: (80.) "Abschus" LENS" 12h.35 (the hour poses problem?,false hour??) 42-5763 91°BGroup crash MONS-EN-Pévèle....15 km of LENS NO OTHER CLAIMANT THAN MAYER IN THE LENS REGION!so FOUNDED! So not SIMPLE: michel |
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43
I have not the time to check the accuracy of the webpage below, but it says this B-17 42-5763 was shot down by Ofw Walter Ebert of 10./JG 2.
http://faucheursdemarguerites.org/wp...-en-pevele.pdf Linking B-17 claims to actual losses is hard due to the ability of the US heavy bombers to fly a long time after having been heavily hit. |
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43
Hello Michel,
the B-17 42-3293 of 388th BG, 560th BS crashed at La Chapelle-Champigny northwest of Sens (MACR 3113, German casualty no. KU 158). Five dead members of the crew were buried on the Community Cemetery of Sens in a group grave (report A.V. 267/43). Regards Leo |
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Re: Egon Mayer:his 80th claim on 06/09/43
Laurent
I don't agree with the site of "les faucheurs de marguerites" The victims of Walter Ebert are: First victim:B-17 "10 km S.Villeneuve" 12h.25 ,it's "Villeneuve-l'archeveque (40 km of Troyes),it' the B-17 42-30000 (92° B.Group) crashed "Estissac" (20km of Troyes),shared with Harald Ottendorfer (his claim:12h.15 "Estissac" S.W Troyes),Egon Mayer (his claim:12h.17 "6 KM W. Troyes),Hugo Dahmer (his claim:12h.20 "Villeneuve". Second victim:B-17 "2955/04 OST" 12h.35 ,according to the map "GRADNETZ",this correspond to the sud of Paris. It's the B-17 42-30203 (388°B.Group) crashed "Coudray" in the Loiret. Mons-en-Pévèle is in Quadrat 21../05 OST Leo Exact,the first victim of Mayer is the 42-3293 (388°B.Group) claimed 3 km W.Mailly-le camp. 12h.10 The B-17 crashed to "La Chapelle-Champigny"(16km of SENS and 80 km of Mailly le camp). I don't have any answers for his 3rd claim (SENS 12h.29) if it's really SENS? Michel |
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