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Lost B-17 on 6 september 1943
Hi!
Looking for any information possible about a B-17 that was shot down on the 6th of september 1943 at 11.00 and crashed near Weiler ob Helfenstein, Germany. All help is much appreciated! |
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Re: Lost B-17 on 6 september 1943
Date-Type-Ser.#-Unit-Location-MACR
430906 b-17 42-5763 91 germany 514 430906 b-17 42-29540 91germany 515 430906 b-17 42-30163 306 germany 518 430906 b-17 42-5841 306 germany 519 430906 b-17 42-30300 95 germany 546 430906 b-17 42-30161 95 germany 547 430906 b-17 42-30402 100 germany 688 430906 b-17 42-30057 100 germany 689 430906 b-17 42-5890 92 germany 740 430906 b-17 42-30000 92 germany 741 430906 b-17 41-24507 384 germany 772 430906 b-17 42-3041 384 germany 773 430906 b-17 42-3455 384 germany 775 430906 b-17 42-5720 384 germany 776 430906 b-17 42-3434 305 germany 1342 430906 b-17 42-3289 388 germany 3066 430906 b-17 42-3293 388 germany 3113 430906 b-17 42-3378 388 germany 3114 430906 b-17 42-3425 388 germany 3115 430906 b-17 42-5942 388 germany 3121 430906 b-17 42-30201 388 germany 3124 430906 b-17 42-30222 388 germany 3129 430906 b-17 42-30234 388 germany 3132 430906 b-17 42-30478 388 germany 3136 |
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Re: Lost B-17 on 6 september 1943
Thank you. How do I read this chart? What do the different numbers mean?
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Re: Lost B-17 on 6 september 1943
first number is the date 1943 September 06.
second ist the airplane type B-17 third is the serial number 42-30478 fourth the country the plane is lost - germany fifth ist the MACR number 3136 - they file where all known data off this plane are in. |
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Re: Lost B-17 on 6 september 1943
42-3289 10.50 hrs dettingen
42-30335 Villingen 42-30161 crash place south germany 42-30300 10.20 hrs south of stuttgart 42-30201 near Geislingen |
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Re: Lost B-17 on 6 september 1943
Thank you very much! Any chance of helping me recognise the plane in Weiler ob Helfenstein?
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Re: Lost B-17 on 6 september 1943
Where is Weiler - Helfenstein in relation to Stuttgart ?
what other towns near there? There were 4 B - 17s crashed Stuttgart Area. 1 from 95th BG 3 from 388th BG From time Ron Posted , # 42 - 3289 is a good possibility Mike |
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Re: Lost B-17 on 6 september 1943
Thank you Mike!
Weiler-Helfenstein is West South West of Stuttgart. How do I go about finding the unit and plane number? |
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Re: Lost B-17 on 6 september 1943
The MACR for 42-3289 gives the crash location (according to the German KU-134) as near Dettingen an der Erms, 12 km NE of Reutlingen at 1050. Reutlingen is almost due south of Stuttgart. Weiler ob Helfenstein looks on the map to be at least 45 km ESE of Stuttgart. I am not sure that 42-3289 is the correct plane.
Note: Weiler ob Helfenstein is very close to Geislingen and there is a note above that 42-30201 went down near Geislingen. However, when I looked at the MACR for 42-30201, the crash location seems to be given as Voves, France so I am not sure what to make of that. |
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Re: Lost B-17 on 6 september 1943
Thanks for the help and yes, you are right, it is ESE of Stuttgart, my mistake. Any possibility of viewing these records and documents online?
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