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Old 20th August 2011, 23:26
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Ju88 KQ+KR lost 29 July 1943

Hi guys

I'm seeking crew details etc of the above (flown by Ltn Kubeil), plus any other information.

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Old 21st August 2011, 08:31
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Re: Ju88 KQ+KR lost 29 July 1943

1943-07-29, 1./E-KGr. Ju 88/Gen.d.Fl.Ausb., Ju 88A-4, (88)4548, KQ+KR, Bei Fl.Pl. Larissa, Absturz nach Start infolge Motorbrand. Bruch 100 %.
F Lt Kubeil, Alfred, tot
Kb Ogfr Sentz, Hans, tot
Bf Ofw Freek, Emil, tot
Bm Gefr Bertelt, Anton, tot

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Re: Ju88 KQ+KR lost 29 July 1943

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-STE...QAAOSwm-BdK1RZ


Sentz, Hans died on his 50th combat mission.






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Old 18th July 2019, 14:13
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Re: Ju88 KQ+KR lost 29 July 1943

Hi Matti



4548 was in my DB TI+DV


Question is was KQ+KR 144548


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Old 18th July 2019, 14:31
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Re: Ju88 KQ+KR lost 29 July 1943

Hi Tony

The TI + D SKZ-block goes only from TI - DA - TI + DD (WNr.4530)
WNr.4531 begins with SKZ-block KQ + KA.

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Old 18th July 2019, 16:44
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Many thanks JoMe


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Old 18th July 2019, 19:14
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Re: Ju88 KQ+KR lost 29 July 1943

There were two WNr.4548s lost within two weeks. One is either in error or WNr.144548. Can anyone shed any light on which was which?

Ju 88A-4, 4548, Holshauser, Uffz. Karl-Heinz, , I., 2., KG 1, , V4+LK, , , 17-Jul-43, MIA, cause unknown. B & Bs also MIA, Bf WIA, returned., Possibly WNr. 144548. SKZ 'KQ+KR'?, Lfl.2/Mittelmeer, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.19, Medcalf; LEMB, (Syrakus), 100%, F, B Uffz. Karl Schmidt, Bf Fw. Gerhard Binder & Bs Ofw. Ernst Hofmann, , Dornier Flzg.Werke Wismar in Aug-41
Ju 88A-4, 4548, Kubiel, Ltn. Alfred, , , , Eins.Kampfgr. Ju 88 Chef A.W., , , KQ+KR, , 29-Jul-43, Crew killed in crash after take-off due to engine fire., WNr. 144548?. Dup with earlier loss. Bf Freeg per loss. Bs = Bm?, Lw.Kdo.Südost/Ägäis, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/776, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.69; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/783, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.93, Salonen per TOCH on 21-Aug-11, bei Fl.Pl. Larissa, 100%, H, B Ogefr. Hans Sentz, Bf Ofw. Emil Freek & Bs Gefr. Anton Bertelt
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Re: Ju88 KQ+KR lost 29 July 1943

Combining Matti's and JoMe's details would at least indicate the first aircraft you quote is then WNr 144548 and the second one the real 4548.

Hopefully Matti has something on the first crew you list, and perhaps it is not even 144548 but something else again.

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Old 18th July 2019, 23:02
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Re: Ju88 KQ+KR lost 29 July 1943

using Jim P data post 7# and the data below data
Junkers Ju 88 A-4 and A14 WNr.088 0144001 to WNr.088 0144750 built by Henschel (Schönefeld) from -1942-07- to ?

Junkers Ju88 A-4 WNr.088 4425 to WNr.088 4720 built by Dornier-Nord (Wismar) -1941-04- to -1942-01-

thats makes KQ+KR WNr.088 0144548 and V4+LK WNr.088 4548
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