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Claims of III/JG 52 on 25, 26 VI 41?
Cliams if III/JG52 over Constanca in June 1941
There some differences about claims in Constanca area in June 1941. Acccoding one data III/JG 52 7. or 8. Staffel had climed on 25 Vi – 5 victories 26 VI 41 – 14 victories (7./JG 52 - ?) Any corrections to it.?
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Re: Claims of III/JG 52 on 25, 26 VI 41?
25 June 1941: 5 claims
25.06.41 Uffz. Paul Eberhardt: 2 7./JG 52 DB-3 £ E. Konstanza 16.30 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 25.06.41 Stfw. Alfred Emberger: 1 9./JG 52 DB-3 £ E. Konstanza 17.00 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 25.06.41 Uffz. Kurt Ratzlaff: 1 7./JG 52 DB-3 £ E. Konstanza 17.30 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 25.06.41 Oblt. Günther Rall: 3 ► 8./JG 52 SB-2 £ E. Konstanza 17.40 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 25.06.41 Uffz. Edmund Roßmann: 1 7./JG 52 DB-3 £ E. Konstanza 17.40 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26 June 1941: 18 claims 26.06.41 Fw. Bruno Wickert: 1 7./JG 52 DB-3 £ Raum Konstanza 04.18 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Uffz. Bruno Wickert: 1 7./JG 52 DB-3 £ Raum Konstanza 04.20 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Ltn. Adolf Dickfeld: 1 ► 7./JG 52 DB-3 £ Raum Konstanza 04.30 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Fw. Franz Schlosser: 1 ► 7./JG 52 SB-2 £ Raum Konstanza 05.00 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Fw. Franz Schlosser: 2 ► 7./JG 52 SB-2 £ Raum Konstanza 05.02 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Oblt. Günther Rall: 4 8./JG 52 SB-2 £ NE. Konstanza 05.10 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Ogefr. Friedrich Wachowiak: 3 8./JG 52 DB-3 £ Konstanza 05.20 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Ltn. Adolf Dickfeld: 2 7./JG 52 SB-2 £ Raum Konstanza 05.25 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Oblt. Hans-Jörg Zimmermann: 2 ► Stab III./JG 52 SB-2 £ Raum Konstanza 05.30 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Oblt. Helmut Lößnitz: 2 8./JG 52 SB-2 £ Raum Konstanza 05.30 Prien/Bock via Jim P. KIFA 01/07/41 26.06.41 Fw. Josef Fernsebner: 4 ► 8./JG 52 DB-3 £ Raum Konstanza 05.40 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Fw. Josef Zwernemann: 2 7./JG 52 SB-2 £ Raum Konstanza 05.45 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Fw. Josef Fernsebner: 5 ► 8./JG 52 DB-3 £ Raum Konstanza 05.45 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Oblt. Hans-Jörg Zimmermann: 3 ► Stab III./JG 52 SB-2 £ Raum Konstanza 05.30 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Uffz. Erich Tepan: 2 7./JG 52 DB-3 £ Raum Konstanza 05.50 Prien/Bock via Jim P. KIA 26/07/41 26.06.41 Uffz. Gerhard Köppen: 3 ► 8./JG 52 DB-3 £ Raum Konstanza 05.50 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Ltn. Kurt Schade: 1 ► Stab III./JG 52 DB-3 £ Raum Konstanza 05.52 Prien/Bock via Jim P. 26.06.41 Uffz. Gerhard Köppen: 4 8./JG 52 DB-3 £ Raum Konstanza 05.55 Prien/Bock via Jim P. |
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Re: Thanks, Hight Overclaiming on 26 VI 41
Hi laurent
Great Thanks for this list of claims. On 25 VI Soviet did lost in 2 comabts a few bombers (4 DB-3F and SB) 1. One DB-3 confirmed and some next damaged (one DB-3F had come back with 700, yes according Soviets 700 holes). Second comabts took place abou 30 minutes later (DB-3F+ SB) and this time 3 SB were lost. On 26 VI there is air and navy operation (leader Moskva had beed sunk on mine or by Soviet torpedo). Soviet did send very early 3 small formation of DB-3F and SB and this time they lost only 4 SB, which means quite large overcaliming rate to Germans claims. Soviet send on the morning all 11 SB and DB-3F in 3 waves (not big ones) in intervals. Only 8 bombers took part in the attack 3 others after some problems had to return earlier. Reagards, Mirek Wawrzyński PS May you have the sam data for 24 or 23, 22 - there were not combats on 22,23 I think, am I right?.
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