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Old 30th September 2012, 21:52
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Re: Color film brand new FW 190 in may 1945

A couple of larger screen shots:





Color scheme appears to be RLM 74/75/76. Does the 74 looks almost black to anyone else?

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Old 30th September 2012, 22:56
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Re: Color film brand new FW 190 in may 1945

I'm thinking that it might be RLM81 in combination with RLM75. There are some dark not very saturated versions of RLM 81 that I believe could easily be mistaken for a dark RLM74 when seen in combination with 75. Specially in old colorfilm where subtle tones might be hard to distinguish. Thanks for the shots though!

EDIT: Having seen the actual clip now, it's hard to say much except that the lighter color is RLM75. In a few frames the darker color on the spine looked like a perfect example of RLM74 but the exposure and general quality of the film makes it very hard to be certain. It could be an RLM74/75 scheme touched up with RLM70 or something similar. Very hard to tell.

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Old 3rd October 2012, 00:01
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Re: Color film brand new FW 190 in may 1945

Here is the same film with Bf109:

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65...rican-soldiers

Text/description is:

''...Location: Dachau Germany
Date: 1945, April ------ The Concentration Camp in Dachau, Germany. A group of American soldiers sitting and standing near and in a Messerschmitt Bf-109 (G-6 or G-14 "Black 1") . A US soldier joking around and hanging from the propeller of the aircraft as other soldiers rotate it. A swastika drawn on the tail of the Bf-109. Soldiers stand around the tail of the Bf-109 (Me-109). ...''


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Old 18th October 2012, 14:25
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Re: Color film brand new FW 190 in may 1945

Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Schatz View Post
Wow! Very impressive vids! Also very interesting is the Luftflotte 4 Ju87 (starts at 4:30) in the last vid.

Cheers, Simon
... of 2./NSGr.10, +C - not one of the more commonly photographed/seen NSGr.10 87s either and unusual in that it's got it's wheel spats still fitted. I only recall seeing one other of their aircraft still wearing those - Ju 87D-5, +I, WNr.?.

Don't have my references to hand, but probably have more information, i.e. it's WNr and other tactical markings, somewhere ...

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Chris

Simon - just noticed further along this thread you've already noted this - sorry for the duplicate info

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Old 4th April 2014, 19:57
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Color film FW 190 in may 1945 + photo same plane

Hello,

A black and white photo of the same plane can be seen page 161 (bottom) of the very good book "LO+ST" (author = Hideki Noro).
This front view shows well the partially dark (81) painted underwing.

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Old 22nd March 2017, 12:11
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Re: Color film brand new FW 190 in may 1945

I guess what others were doing but all the files are missing from the discussion so I've spent few minutes fixing the colors a bit. Unfortunately most of the footage is heavily underexposed which killed the colors quite especially in shadows & darker tones & made corrections from such a small resolution video quite hard...
But still maybe someone will find this useful

http://www.hirtc.com/HIRTC/FW190/Col..._JG6_Furth.jpg
http://www.hirtc.com/HIRTC/FW190/Col...190_D-9_07.jpg
http://www.hirtc.com/HIRTC/FW190/Col...190_D-9_06.jpg
http://www.hirtc.com/HIRTC/FW190/Col...190_D-9_05.jpg
http://www.hirtc.com/HIRTC/FW190/Col...190_D-9_04.jpg
http://www.hirtc.com/HIRTC/FW190/Col...190_D-9_03.jpg
http://www.hirtc.com/HIRTC/FW190/Col...190_D-9_02.jpg
http://www.hirtc.com/HIRTC/FW190/Col...190_D-9_01.jpg
http://www.hirtc.com/HIRTC/FW190/Col...Factory_02.jpg
http://www.hirtc.com/HIRTC/FW190/Col...Factory_01.jpg << panoramic composite

Please note - files are a bit wider so they make the board look uneven so I am posting them as links. Hope that is ok?

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Old 22nd March 2017, 18:02
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Re: Color film brand new FW 190 in may 1945

Those are Fw 190 A-8s in the 739000 W.Nr. block found at that Ago factory not A-9s.

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Old 23rd March 2017, 05:57
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Re: Color film brand new FW 190 in may 1945

Thanks for the correction Jerry.

Still very interesting to see the camo quite clearly. Pity the film was so heavily underexposed drops shadows totally off when it comes to tone & details.
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Old 18th March 2018, 11:46
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Re: Color film brand new FW 190 in may 1945

Hallo,

The link to watch the film (post 1) does not work any more.

I would be please to watch it again.

Does any one have an idea to find this film again ?

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Old 19th March 2018, 20:55
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Re: Color film brand new FW 190 in may 1945

I not sure if this is exactly the same film, but it shows the Fw 190A-8's at AGO Oschersleben.
https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1000120
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