The September 6, 1943 raid on Stuttgart.

[NickM]

Guys:

All I know about this mission is that it was a 'costly fiasco' (45 Bombers shot down); is there anything written about this mission along the lines of Schweinfurt or Berlin? Or at least can anybody tell me the units involved & both sides & claims/losses?

Thanks ahead of time

NM

[RSwank]

The book "To Kingdom Come" by Robert J Mrazek is about this mission. Quite a story.

[NickM]

Thanks; got any thumbnail info on the mission itself, like the units involved & their claims/losses?

[Andy Fletcher]

Hi Nick,

Unit (losses)

3BD (18); claimed 66 e/a dest

95BG (4)
100BG (3)
390BG (0)
94BG (0)
96BG (0)
385BG (0)
388BG (11)

1BD (27); claimed 32 e/a dest

91BG (3)
92BG (7)
303BG (1)
305BG (5)
306BG (2)
351BG (2)
379BG (2)
381BG (0)
384BG (5)

Source: The Mighty Eight War Diary, by Roger Freeman

Best Regards

Andy Fletcher

[FrankieS]

Hi Nick M and all!


Here come some 38 losses from the U.S. side:

MACR A/C serial Code Name Group Sqn Pilot Crashplace Country
514 B-17 42-5763 91 401 59246 Mons-en-Pévèle F
B-17 41-24497 91 322 North Sea Sussex UK
515 B-17 42-29540 91 323 North Sea Hastings UK
741 B-17 42-30000 92 327 Montgueux F
739 B-17 42-30010 Schickelgruber Shuttle Service, LTD 92 407 Abbeville 30 km NE F
740 B-17 42-5890 92 327 Poissy, France 45-50 km NNW Paris F
547 B-17 42-30161 Cuddle Cat 95 335 Cabeen S Stuttgart D
546 B-17 42-30300 Hell-n-Back 95 334 86938 Schondorf am Ammersee D
545 B-17 42-30271 BomBoggie 95 335 Pancy-Courtecon F
687 B-17 42-30335 LN U Sans Finis 100 350 LT WALTER J GRENIER Colmar ?Villingen F/?D
688 B-17 42-30402 LD W The Poontang 100 418 CAPT EDWARD F WOODWARD, JR. ?Strasbourg F(CH?)
689 B-17 42-30057 EP D Raunchy 100 351 CAPT SAM R TURNER Bodensee ditch Romanshorn CH
2155 B-17 41-24591 Rigor Mortis 305 366
1345 B-17 41-24592 KY-G Madame Butterfly 305 366 Dübendorf CH
1343 B-17 42-5057 305 422 between Le Havre and Dieppe D
1342 B-17 42-3434 WF-E So What? 305 364 Dübendorf CH
1344 B-17 41-24591 305 366
518 B-17 42-30163 306 368
519 B-17 42-5841 RD-I Est Nulla Via in Via Virtuti 306 423 Magadino CH
none B-17 42-3150 351 Beachy Head UK
772 B-17 41-24507 BK-B Yankee Raider 384 544 Armstrong James E 27150 Etrepagny-Provement F
773 B-17 42-3041 SU-H unnamed 384 544 J. McMahon Compiègne F
776 B-17 42-5720 SU-A 384 544 L. Aufmuth Beauvais F
775 B-17 42-3455 BK-M Lucky Thirteen 384 546 R.Faulkner Bois de Moines- Airion - 4 km N Clermont F
1455 + 774 B-17 42-5843 SO-S Black Ghost 384 547 R. Pulcipher Beauvais F
? B-17 42-30065 SO-O 384 547 Lt. W. Price
3114 B-17 42-3378 388 563 Roe Stuttgart
3136 B-17 42-30478 L Impatient Virgin II 388 560 Beecham Dübendorf CH
3132 B-17 42-30234 388 563 L. M. Miller Mesnil
3129 B-17 42-30222 388 563 Kramer Troyes F
3126 B-17 42-30203 388 560 Mohr Goudray 30-35 mi NE Orleans F
3124 B-17 42-30201 Shedowanna 388 560 Melville 1.5 km S Voves F
3121 B-17 42-5942 Sky Shy/Wenatchee Special 388 563 Bowen, Myron A near Ulm D
3115 B-17 42-3425 388 563 Cunningham Troyes F
3113 B-17 42-3293 388 560 Karnezis Champigny D
3066 B-17 42-3289 Wolfpack 388 562 Wick, Edward A. Wick 72581 Dettingen an der Erms D
2409 B-17 42-30349 388 563 Wilken Montgeux F

[NickM]

Many thanks to all who replied; anybody got anything for the Luftwaffe's side?

Thanks again.

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Some losses numbers from the Sumamry of Luftwaffe losses for JG units:

Format: Unit : Aircraft shot down / Aircraft lost in operations without enemy action / Aircraft damaged in air battle / Aircraft damaged in operations without enemy action

JG 1: 0 / 1 / 0 / 1
JG 2: 3 / 2 / 2 / 1
JG 3: 1 / 3 / 1 / 1
JG 11 : 1 / 0 / 0 / 0
JG 26 : 3 / 0 / 2 / 1
JG 27 : 1 / 0 / 0 / 0
JG 50 : 2 / 0 / 1 / 1

All these losses may be in other actions this day.

[NickM]

Thanks to everyone who posted.

[Nokose]

Nick, do a search under Major Thimmig 9./III/NJG101 there was a thread on that raid.