Crash of Luftwaffe reconnaissance aircraft on 29th november 1944 over Wehdel in germany

[HenFre]

Hello all

I am looking for information regarding the crash described in the title. Does anyone have any in depth information regarding what happened and who/what crashed?

Regards
Henrik

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Hello Henrik, good morning.

Would you have more clues? I mean is the type of the aircraft known? Is it German or Allied? Would you have images of the wreck you may have found?

There are some really experts down here on the Forum regarding pieces and wrecakges...those guys can surely be of help if you put some images or try to describe what you found.

I tried to find something that matches what you asked for, but got only a Bf 109 G from JG 300, flown by a former Aufklärer pilot, that crashed somewhere on this day....maybe this is your machine?!?

Adriano

[HenFre]

Hello Adriano

All I have is a text in German from a book called "1000 Jahre Wehdel". This text translated says: On the 29th of November 1944 at about 19:00 hours a plane crashed into the city of Wehdel. No people from the city where killed in the crash, but 4 young men from the crew of the plane died. The plane had left Quakenbrück only 8 minutes earlier and where on a reconnaissance mission.

That is all the information I have to go by.

Thank you for trying to find the information regarding the crash Adriano. The aircraft in question must however be larger than the Bf-109 if it had a crew of 4 or more airmen.

Best regards
Henrik

[Adriano Baumgartner]

HENRIK,

Guess it was a machine from Aufklärungsgruppe 122....

Full name:
Schwarz, Johannes
Box Number:
GA536/1050-1645
Source Id:
894054
Certificate Number:
G-A 536/1578
Birth date:
30 Jan 1923
Birth Place:
Berlin
Military Rank:
Uffz
Military Unit:
3/(F) Aufkl Gruppe 122
Death date:
8 Dec 1944
Death Place:
Wehdel b Badbergen
Mother full name:
Sch, Johanna

https://www.fold3.com/image/699593863?terms=wehdel

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Full name:
Meschke, Ernst
Box Number:
GA592/1770-2299
Source Id:
1484251
Certificate Number:
G-A 592/2126
Birth date:
29 Jun 1921
Birth Place:
Rasberg Zeitz
Military Rank:
Ltn (Kr O)
Military Unit:
3 (F) Auffkl Gruppe 122
Death date:
8 Dec 1944
Death Place:
Wehdel b Badbergen
Father full name:
M, Oskar

https://www.fold3.com/image/692914745?terms=wehdel

[Adriano Baumgartner]

I have NOT found the other 2 airmen's names....

Maybe MATTI SALONEN can give us a hand onto this, or someone else who may have this information (werknummer, codes, etc.).

This is what I found....maybe the date is wrong....but it is "close" to what you have asked for.

A.

[Brian Bines]

The Luftwaffe Officers Career Summaries has Lt. Ernst Meschke b 29-6-1921 killed in a Ju188 D-2 of 3(F)/122 but at Grulich Adler Mountains Czechoslovakia . However the VDK site has him as buried at Furstenau which is somewhat closer to Wehdel , correct aircraft type but Grulich location incorrect ?

Regards

Brian Bines

[Matti Salonen]

There is a NVM at WAST, but unfortunately without any aircraft details:
1944-12-08, 3.(F)/122, Wehdel bei Badbergen.
Lt Meschke, Ernst, +
Uffz Schwarz, Johannes, +
Uffz Schöpf, Fritz, +
Obgfr Sterlike, Walter, +
Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
The whole crew was buried at Quakenbrück, kath. Friedhof, Ehrenteil, Grab 21, 22, 23 and 25.

Matti

[HenFre]

Matti, Brian and Adriano thank you all so much. I am very grateful for your help in finding the details surrounding this crash.

Best regards
Henrik

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Am sure it is a pleasure to everyone on the Forum, when someone find help and obtain the information he was looking for.
And we are all helping to preserve History and remember or pay homage to those who have "gone West", no matter the Country they fought for.
This is why TOCH and other Forums are simply amazing....

Am really happy for you.