Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Reviews > Books and Magazines

Books and Magazines Please use this forum to review or discuss books and magazines.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 4th August 2022, 18:29
edwest2 edwest2 is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 7,531
edwest2 will become famous soon enoughedwest2 will become famous soon enough
Savoia-Marchetti S.79 Sparviero 1934-1947. From Airliner and Record-Breaker to Bomber and Torpedo-Bomber 1934.

Scheduled for the end of August.

https://www.christian-schmidt.com/pr...ducts_id=11144

Usual disclaimer,
Ed
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 4th August 2022, 21:50
Jukka Juutinen Jukka Juutinen is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,179
Jukka Juutinen is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Savoia-Marchetti S.79 Sparviero 1934-1947. From Airliner and Record-Breaker to Bomber and Torpedo-Bomber 1934.

The book has been available for some time already.
__________________
"No man, no problem." Josef Stalin possibly said...:-)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 4th August 2022, 23:27
AMC's Avatar
AMC AMC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 156
AMC is on a distinguished road
Re: Savoia-Marchetti S.79 Sparviero 1934-1947. From Airliner and Record-Breaker to Bomber and Torpedo-Bomber 1934.

Very disappointing book, what I call “a Christmas cracker book”. (Which I avoid like the plague normally if possible)
Just glossy poster pictures within and a peripheral treatment of operations.
The author even admits it is not an adequate treatment of operations, stating it would need a book twice it’s size.
Then he should have waited, and written a book twice the size!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 5th August 2022, 00:01
Jukka Juutinen Jukka Juutinen is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,179
Jukka Juutinen is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Savoia-Marchetti S.79 Sparviero 1934-1947. From Airliner and Record-Breaker to Bomber and Torpedo-Bomber 1934.

That's a promising review since there is nothing more annoying that books portraying as aircraft monographs while being mostly operational chronicles.
__________________
"No man, no problem." Josef Stalin possibly said...:-)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 5th August 2022, 12:21
Stig Jarlevik Stig Jarlevik is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,826
Stig Jarlevik will become famous soon enough
Re: Savoia-Marchetti S.79 Sparviero 1934-1947. From Airliner and Record-Breaker to Bomber and Torpedo-Bomber 1934.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AMC View Post
Very disappointing book, what I call “a Christmas cracker book”. (Which I avoid like the plague normally if possible)
Just glossy poster pictures within and a peripheral treatment of operations.
The author even admits it is not an adequate treatment of operations, stating it would need a book twice it’s size.
Then he should have waited, and written a book twice the size!!!!
When I read the blurb, due to the many photos/drawings etc (500+) it became a sort of pictorial to me.
Since I don't really know what you mean with "poster pictures" are you saying that even the photos
are "useless", ie published before - bad quality - very uninteresting?

Also the so called colour photos, are they all from preserved specimens or contemporary?

Cheers
Stig
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 5th August 2022, 14:13
AMC's Avatar
AMC AMC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 156
AMC is on a distinguished road
Re: Savoia-Marchetti S.79 Sparviero 1934-1947. From Airliner and Record-Breaker to Bomber and Torpedo-Bomber 1934.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik View Post
When I read the blurb, due to the many photos/drawings etc (500+) it became a sort of pictorial to me.
Since I don't really know what you mean with "poster pictures" are you saying that even the photos
are "useless", ie published before - bad quality - very uninteresting?

Also the so called colour photos, are they all from preserved specimens or contemporary?

Cheers
Stig
It is a pictorial book no doubt!, the Poster pictures I mentioned (numerous) are of the time, advertising the aircraft eg. girls on a beach looking up at one flying by, and other aspects, like a poster advertising torpedo factories!!! Very childish….
The author even blames the COVID for being unable to seek more data from archives…..
As this forum doesn’t facilitate photos, I am unable to show anything from the book.
For an iconic aircraft flown by gallant crews against overwhelming odds, we are still awaiting a book to do it justice.
If we were having a meal I’d call it a starter!!!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 5th August 2022, 14:27
Stig Jarlevik Stig Jarlevik is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,826
Stig Jarlevik will become famous soon enough
Re: Savoia-Marchetti S.79 Sparviero 1934-1947. From Airliner and Record-Breaker to Bomber and Torpedo-Bomber 1934.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AMC View Post
It is a pictorial book no doubt!, the Poster pictures I mentioned (numerous) are of the time, advertising the aircraft eg. girls on a beach looking up at one flying by, and other aspects, like a poster advertising torpedo factories!!! Very childish….
The author even blames the COVID for being unable to seek more data from archives…..
As this forum doesn’t facilitate photos, I am unable to show anything from the book.
For an iconic aircraft flown by gallant crews against overwhelming odds, we are still awaiting a book to do it justice.
If we were having a meal I’d call it a starter!!!
Thanks AMC
I think I will bypass this one....
Pity since I confess I kind of looked forward to it.
Not too many Italians around writing about their own aviation history....in English....
Cheers
Stig
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 6th August 2022, 20:48
Jukka Juutinen Jukka Juutinen is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,179
Jukka Juutinen is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Savoia-Marchetti S.79 Sparviero 1934-1947. From Airliner and Record-Breaker to Bomber and Torpedo-Bomber 1934.

Stig: the Sparviero book has 288 pages. assuming 500 illustrations, that is about 1.74 photos per page. Very pictorial indeed. Or not. For comparison: Chris Goss's Do 17 book has 304 pages and over 700 photos (as per publisher's info) and the Do 217 by the same author has 184 pages and "300-400" photos. The masive "Battle of France Then and Now", a book known for thoroughness, has 592 pages and over 900 illustrations. To be frank, I seriously suspect that AMC has not read the book through and/or compared the amount of text to the amount of illustrations by actually doing any math.
__________________
"No man, no problem." Josef Stalin possibly said...:-)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 6th August 2022, 23:28
AMC's Avatar
AMC AMC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 156
AMC is on a distinguished road
Re: Savoia-Marchetti S.79 Sparviero 1934-1947. From Airliner and Record-Breaker to Bomber and Torpedo-Bomber 1934.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jukka Juutinen View Post
Stig: the Sparviero book has 288 pages. assuming 500 illustrations, that is about 1.74 photos per page. Very pictorial indeed. Or not. For comparison: Chris Goss's Do 17 book has 304 pages and over 700 photos (as per publisher's info) and the Do 217 by the same author has 184 pages and "300-400" photos. The masive "Battle of France Then and Now", a book known for thoroughness, has 592 pages and over 900 illustrations. To be frank, I seriously suspect that AMC has not read the book through and/or compared the amount of text to the amount of illustrations by actually doing any math.
I really don’t know where you are going with all this picture counting verses text logic!, let’s keep it simple!
Anyone opening the book will see it as pictorial in content.
I have the book, it is at best a pictorial “history” and I really don’t see what other books and their merits have to do with it?

“Be master of your petty annoyances
and conserve your energy for the big worthwhile things.
It isn’t the mountain ahead that wears you out-
it’s the grain of sand in your shoe”…..
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 7th August 2022, 19:43
Jukka Juutinen Jukka Juutinen is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,179
Jukka Juutinen is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Savoia-Marchetti S.79 Sparviero 1934-1947. From Airliner and Record-Breaker to Bomber and Torpedo-Bomber 1934.

In that case you should rate every Classic volume a pictorial since in them there are very few text-only pages. Therefore it is extremely important to compare the actual amount of text to the amount of illustrations. Otherwise the assesment is useless.
__________________
"No man, no problem." Josef Stalin possibly said...:-)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:29.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net