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Old 10th September 2018, 01:33
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I am not suggesting anything nefarious, but I do own a number of these images as originals revealed in the Pitman photos above.

I believe the Bf 110 G is 3C+DR (going from memory).

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Good to know that, Mark. Did you ever met Pitman himself ? And, if not mistaken, "3C+DR" is a 7./NJG 4 machine found at Reims ? i'm away in the Swiss Alps without my reference library

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Old 10th September 2018, 03:45
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Yes, for the 110. I never met Pitman but the photos have been in my collection for years. They were among my earliest purchases.

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Old 10th September 2018, 10:34
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Hi there Gang,

Among the dozens of hitherto unknown photos here a small selection:

… A well known - NSGr. 1 if memory serve me well - Ju 87 D:
https://vaughanpitman.com/2018/01/18...9ea32f87f/2090

Any details for fleshing out the captions ?

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I'm doubtful that it's from NSG 1 because it has no flame dampers for night operations and lacks the characteristic V8+__ code seen on known aircraft of that unit. On the other hand, they and NSG 2 were receiving all kinds of Ju 87s at the very end of the war as supplies of the "correct" ones ran out. And frustratingly that Werk Nummer is almost readable!
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Old 10th September 2018, 11:38
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I'm doubtful that it's from NSG 1 because it has no flame dampers for night opeations and lacks the characteristic V8+__ code seen on known aircraft of that unit. On the other hand, they and NSG 2 were receiving all kinds of Ju 87s at the very end of the war as supplies of the "correct" ones ran out. And frustratingly that Werk Nummer is almost readable!
Just making a quick guess interpretation I "think" I can see 130503 on that fin.
Anyone got anything on that WNr (or anything close by)?

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Old 10th September 2018, 15:37
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Just making a quick guess interpretation I "think" I can see 130503 on that fin.
Anyone got anything on that WNr (or anything close by)?

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Ju 87 D-5 W.Nr. 130532 served with NSG 9 and was lost on 22 December 1944.
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Old 10th September 2018, 16:54
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Re: Captured German planes, not from eBay

Nothing on WNr. 130503 but STKZ should be BG+LC.

WNr. 130502 was reported with NSGr 2 on 7. April 1945 at Halle-Nietleben (Ultra HW5/691).

WNr. 130505 was lost at Prag-Kletzan on 16. April 1945 due to strafing. It was with 3. III/SG 2 and had the code T6+LK.

WNr. 130512 did an emergency landing at Münster on 8. June 1943 due to engine trouble. Was with FlÜG 1 and was damaged 30%.

Ju 87 with Werknummern from the 130.51x Batch were built at Weser Flugzeugwerke Lemwerder and I have quite a few "Werkflüge" from May 1943.

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Junkers 88 G-1 WNr.712373 3C+FR 7./NJG4

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Old 10th September 2018, 18:30
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Re: Captured German planes, not from eBay

Thanks Nick and Charles

Yes it is indeed a pity the scanning is not quite good enough to be certain which one this is.

Unless no one objects I have tentatively listed it as 130503.
Usually when I do, someone quickly comes forward and give me/us the correct answer....

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Old 10th September 2018, 19:10
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Re: Captured German planes, not from eBay

Hello,

A He 177 A, said to be at 9th AF HQ, September 1944

He 177 A-3 6N+EK "Edith" of 2./KG 100, W Nr 332367. Selection of photographs (and colour side-view*) of this aircraft in:

Heinkel He 177 Greif Heinkel's Strategic Bomber.
Smith,J Richard & Eddie J Creek
Hersham:Classic,2008 .
pp.132-3

ID strip on one photo - (GPR 50-17- 31PRS) (SEPT 44) (A/F CHATEAUDUN).

* Also profiled in Robert Forsyth's latest effort in, Heinkel He 177 Units of World War 2 (Osprey Combat Aircraft 123), pp.38 & 94.

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Old 10th September 2018, 22:25
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Re: Captured German planes, not from eBay

Thanks Nick, Charles, Spektor and Col for all your inputs.

@Ju 87 D: I'm pretty sure I saw already photos of that Ju 87 D...just can't remember where.

@Ju 88 G-1 W.Nr. 712373; any idea about its location ?

Great spot, Col, for He 177 A-3 W.Nr. 332637 "6N+EK", 2./KG 100, photographed at Chateaudun. This is now a settled case.

There remains some questions regarding those burnt out our partial hulks of Si 204's from an unknown Blindfliegerschule;

https://vaughanpitman.com/2018/01/17...c39e81b8b6/801
This caption says Cablence; I surmise it could be Koblenz, but there is no trace of a Blindfliegerschule there. Two Si 204 burnt out fuselages can be seen, without much details though.

https://vaughanpitman.com/2018/01/17...c39e81b8b6/423
The second shot of a Si 204 has been ID-ed by Dénes Bernad as Si 204 D W.Nr. 321202 "TJ+XV". Is its unit and location known ? Could it be Koblenz as well ?

Thanks again for all your informations
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