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Old 29th December 2018, 00:20
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That is alright. Thank you.

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Old 29th December 2018, 15:01
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Thank you for your reply. An eagle over Swastika is a Luftwaffe eagle. Nothing to do with the SS.

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Old 29th December 2018, 15:24
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Old 29th December 2018, 17:20
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Re: A shield to identify

Sinisa

Of course the SS also used the eagle.
All sources seems to agree on that. Please check here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unifor..._Schutzstaffel

Not saying it is "your eagle" and no I cannot identify your small shield either.
But if we totally skip any SS connection, what then in the Luftwaffe was called Das Reich?

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Old 29th December 2018, 18:34
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Re: A shield to identify

Stig,

Of course this is the Luftwaffe eagle. This is what I see on the photo... https://www.google.ie/search?q=luftw...w=1396&bih=613

The SS did use the eagle insignia, which unlike in the case of the Hoheitsabzeichen, was facing left.


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Old 29th December 2018, 19:12
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As I said I am not saying it is not a Luftwaffe Eagle
All I am saying is that you consistantly state the SS did not use any eagle, which they clearly did.

The point I am trying to make, is why the text state 'Das Reich' which, seems to me, is the heart of your problem.

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Old 29th December 2018, 19:14
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Is it a label rather than a badge ?
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Old 29th December 2018, 20:34
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As I said I am not saying it is not a Luftwaffe Eagle
All I am saying is that you consistantly state the SS did not use any eagle, which they clearly did.

The point I am trying to make, is why the text state 'Das Reich' which, seems to me, is the heart of your problem.

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Stig,

Ah, yes... It is apparent that I have to spell it out in every conceivable minor detail, thus - an eagle over Swastika (in this particular arrangement) is the Luftwaffe eagle. Nothing to do with the SS.

What then in the Luftwaffe was called Das Reich? The German state of the period was referred to as das Reich.

Ehm... no, das Reich is the periphery of the issue here, and no, I do not have problem.

I do not think that you are helping the matter here. You (and I for that matter) just do not know what this item is, and that is fine, someone else may be able to decipher it. I propose that you and I stop our discussion at this point since it is not going anywhere.

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Old 29th December 2018, 20:39
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Is it a label rather than a badge ?
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I do not know what it is exactly, but I do not think that is badge. It is a shield (or label), which does give some information of something (some part of aircraft, for example).

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Old 29th December 2018, 20:49
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Re: A shield to identify

After seeing hundreds of examples of similar items, I can say with some certainty that this item is unique. One unique aspect is that the maker's name or mark never appears on the front, as it does in this case. Since it does, and in wartime code, means this item may have been a presentation piece designed for the manufacturer. The eagle and swastika is simply a national symbol, plus the words 'The Reich" and 'Armed Forces,' plus a specific year, supports this idea. A specific number indicates a limited production run.

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