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Old 4th June 2018, 14:59
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78 OTU loss 3 November 1944, 78 OTU. RAF Ein Shemar.

Hi , looking for a probable aircraft loss for 2/3 November 1944, 78 OTU. RAF Ein Shemar.

Possible casualties are :
Sgt Dennis Burden - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
Sgt Edmund Carley - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
Sgt Kenneth Corton - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
Sgt Edmund Rees - Alamein memorial, Egypt.

More interested in details for Sgt Dennis Burden Service Number 1819002

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Old 6th June 2018, 17:40
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Re: 78 OTU loss 3 November 1944, 78 OTU. RAF Ein Shemar.

Hello Shaun,

Are you sure about 78 OTU ?

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Old 6th June 2018, 19:57
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Re: 78 OTU loss 3 November 1944, 78 OTU. RAF Ein Shemar.

They're listed as members of 78 OTU , died 3 November 1944 http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...rmen-3-11-1944 but that is all the details I have.There was a Baltimore lost in the area and the pilot killed and body recovered GODDARD, Harry - F/L (Pilot) - 47525 - RAF Baltimore V, FW561 of No 1330 CU,- Tel El Kebir War Memorial cemetery, Egypt. but think the OTU only had Wellingtons.

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Old 6th June 2018, 22:06
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Re: 78 OTU loss 3 November 1944, 78 OTU. RAF Ein Shemar.

You could get a photographer/researcher to copy the ORB pages for you from both the OTU and the CU, save all the guessing.

Cost a few pound only.
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Old 7th June 2018, 01:36
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Re: 78 OTU loss 3 November 1944, 78 OTU. RAF Ein Shemar.

Hello,
The reason I asked was that for Rees, Henk's list has -
Sgt. Edmund T. Rees - 1653111 - SS. Aquila.

At this time I have no idea what if anything happened to the SS. Aquila.

But I wonder if all four airmen were aboard ?
Burden - 1819002 - 78 OTU.
Carley - 2209030 - 78 OTU.
Cotton - 1819049 - 78 OTU.

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Old 7th June 2018, 04:33
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Re: 78 OTU loss 3 November 1944, 78 OTU. RAF Ein Shemar.

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Hello,
The reason I asked was that for Rees, Henk's list has -
Sgt. Edmund T. Rees - 1653111 - SS. Aquila.

At this time I have no idea what if anything happened to the SS. Aquila.

But I wonder if all four airmen were aboard ?
Burden - 1819002 - 78 OTU.
Carley - 2209030 - 78 OTU.
Cotton - 1819049 - 78 OTU.

Alex
We are talking about -1653111 Sgt Edmund Toulmin REES RAFVR here, not 1299493 AC2 Elwyn Thomas REES RAFVR, who was lost aboard the SS "AGUILA" (not "AQUILA"),(along with 11 other RAF casualties and 21 WRNS's). The "AGUILA" was torpedoed and sunk by U-201 on 19 August, 1941. https://uboat.net/allies/merchants/crews/ship1063.html

Col.

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Re: 78 OTU loss 3 November 1944, 78 OTU. RAF Ein Shemar.

4 killed were in a 78 OTU Wellington (spuriously recorded as GA298) which crashed 30 miles WSE of Haifa 3 Nov 44. Flt Sgt Wheeler and Sgt Bowering were both injured
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Re: 78 OTU loss 3 November 1944, 78 OTU. RAF Ein Shemar.

There was a Wellington JA298, don't know if it were in a black out block though

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Old 7th June 2018, 16:19
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Re: 78 OTU loss 3 November 1944, 78 OTU. RAF Ein Shemar.

Hello Col,
Good that you noticed the spelling error and name.
Perhaps you should contact Henk's and ask him to correct his list

Hello Dennis,
Re: JA298 yes was with 78 OTU and SOC 9.11.46 according to AB JA100 -JZ999.

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Re: 78 OTU loss 3 November 1944, 78 OTU. RAF Ein Shemar.

Thanks all , knew someone would know.
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