Last loss of a Hs123

[RT]

Very amased to found an Hs123 shot-down by FLak near the Island of Cepel/Donau on 5.dec.44 so quite at the same time in the skies of Hungary flew an Hs123 nd Me262..

the unit of the Hs123 ??? Some Erg.SG ..

Remi

[Dénes Bernád]

The Island of Csepel is indeed in Hungary, just south of Budapest.
Do you have other details?

P.S. No Me 262 ever flew over Hungary...

[Merlin]

Hello Remi,

this was WNr. 2738 from Stab I./SG 2 marked white 4+, Lt. Herbert Elend dead.

[RT]

Really "magic" Merlin, posting this one I was pretty sure that no answer araise, may I force my modesty to ask from which source come the info ??

Remi

[cproyston]

Merlin/Remi,

I too am interested in a source for this.

I was aware from the Flugzeugbestand und Bewegungsmeldungen returns for II./SG2 that the unit reported four Hs 123s on strength between November and December 1944, but have nothing similar noted for I. Gruppe,

Cheers,
Chris

[RT]

Now on 12.dez. one more Hs but that time a 126, declared as missing recce ops. over Nagy bajon Plattensee Hungary

Remi

[cproyston]

Remi,

Can't help with your loss, but a 3. staffel Hs 126 (??+EL - with a yellow E) was found and photographed at Klagenfurt wearing full post-7th March 1945 Luftflotte 4 ID markings, proving the type saw front-line action right up until the end of the war.

The only Luftflotte 4 operators of the Hs 126 "should" have been 2./NAGr.12 (reporting 15 Hs 126/Bf 109s on strength 9.4.45) or NASt. Kroatien (reporting 16 Hs 126/Bf 109/Bf 110s on strength 9.4.45), but my suspicion is the aircraft belonged to 3.(F)/121, whose Ju 188s were identically marked (the other recce 3. staffel in Luftflotte 4, 3.(F)/33, didn't bother carrying the yellow ID markings or have coloured individual aircraft letters).

So, I only have circumstantial evidence, but perhaps yours also belonged to 3.(F)/121?

Cheers,
Chris

PS I recall, but can't find where the info is to confirm when, that NSGr.7 reported the type on strength, but your "recce ops" probably rules them out.

[DaveWest99]

Hi RT/Merlin,

I too am very interested in where your information came from. I'm researching the Hs123 and any loss information would be most welcome.

Regards
Dave

[FrankieS]

Nachname: Elend
Vorname: Herbert
Dienstgrad: Leutnant
Geburtsdatum: 30.10.1909
Geburtsort: Aberg
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 05.12.1944
Todes-/Vermisstenort: 3 km v.Marcali


Herbert Elend ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Böhönye (Ungarn), unter den Unbekannten.

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by cproyston

The only Luftflotte 4 operators of the Hs 126 "should" have been 2./NAGr.12 (reporting 15 Hs 126/Bf 109s on strength 9.4.45) or NASt. Kroatien (reporting 16 Hs 126/Bf 109/Bf 110s on strength 9.4.45) …

The Hs 126 with 2./NAG 12 in April 1945? Stab, 1. and 2./NAG 12 had been operating Bf 109s throughout 1944 and early 1945 (and reporting only Bf 109s on strength) — is your source saying there was a last-minute switch? Again, whenever NA Staffel Kroatien reported operations, it seems always to have been with the Hs 126, no 109s or other types.