19 Squadron Mustang III's at Matlask Oct 44

[BIGVERN1966]

Hi

Does anybody know the Codes for the following Mustang III's based at Matlask from 28/09/44 to 14/10/44 and even better have a port side photo of anyone of them. Serials as follows:-

FB155
FZ165
FB142
FB189
FB872
FZ195
FZ161
FB185
FB131
FB132
SR433
FB399
FB189
HB872
FB112
FX939
FZ162

Numbers are from the F541 for the squadron for the dates above.

Cheers

Richard

[SMF144]

Richard,

Your project(s) sounds rather interesting and I am curious to know what you're working on; skins for a flight sim?, a webpage?, a book or an article?

Just wondering because I'd like to see the finished product.

Stephen

[BIGVERN1966]

Originally Posted by SMF144

Richard,

Your project(s) sounds rather interesting and I am curious to know what you're working on; skins for a flight sim?, a webpage?, a book or an article?

Just wondering because I'd like to see the finished product.

Stephen

Stephen

Project is a number of profiles for a book about the History of RAF Coltishall being written by the Unit's last CRO. I'm doing them as a freebie as I did a large number of profiles for a poster showing the majority of the RAF and RN aircraft operated on the station from 1940 to 2006 that was produced for the station's last Families Day in Sep 05. (Only missed 3 type's (Master, Proctor and Brigand T5 (OCU Det in the 1950's)) due to my last trip to Kew being disrupted by the events in London in July 2005). I've already done a post war 'Silver' Polish Mk III from 315 Sqn and just want to do some of the 150 Wing Mustangs of 19,65 and 122 Sqn's that were at Coltishall's satellite at Matlask in Sep/Oct 44. (I don't have the time or budget to get to Kew to find the info on 65 or 122 Sqn's aircraft and likewise cannot get to IWM to see if they have any photos there (Did Hendon at the start of the project and didn't know about this site until early last year (didn't have broadband until then).

Richard

[SteveB]

Richard

I can offer the following:

FB155 probably M
FZ165 J
FB142 F
FB189 D
FB872 should be FX872 code not known
FZ195 K
FZ161 mistake not recorded with 19Sqdn
FB185
FB131 I (eye)
FB132 might be T
SR433 might be R
FB399
FB189 repeated
HB872 H
FB112
FX939 might be P
FZ162


There is a photo of F, E and B at Matlask in the book “Fighter Squadron” published by Derek Palmer who is the historian for the 19Sqdn Association
http://www.19sqnallranksassoc.org.uk/ I think 19 is a shadow sqdn at TWTU RAF Valley at the moment.

Steve

[BIGVERN1966]

Originally Posted by SteveB

There is a photo of F, E and B at Matlask in the book “Fighter Squadron” published by Derek Palmer who is the historian for the 19Sqdn Association
http://www.19sqnallranksassoc.org.uk/ I think 19 is a shadow sqdn at TWTU RAF Valley at the moment.

Steve

They were the CFS det at Valley when I was living on the station in the mid 1990's along with 208(R) and 74(R) Squadrons as part of 4FTS. Needless to say they took over the 74 number plate when the training was changed to one squadron for Advanced Flying Training and one for the Tactical Weapons Training phases. Cheers Steve, I’ll contact Derek at once.

[RossGmann]

Is the following of any help ??
FB872
FZ195
SR433
FB112
HB872

FB155
42-103049 to RAF Dec 1943 as Mustang III FB155. SOC Feb 24, 1947
FZ165
43-6546 to RAF as Mustang III FZ165. SOC Feb 24, 1947

FB142
43-103036 was to have gone to RAF Dec 1943 as Mustang III FB142 but not delivered, went to USAAF unit in UK. Condemned salvage no battle damage Jun 8, 1944. Was replaced as FB142 by 42-103569

FB189
42-103083 to RAF Jan 1944 as Mustang III FB189. SOC Feb 24, 1947

FZ161
43-6542 was to have gone to RAF as Mustang III FZ161 Not delivered to RAF, went to USAAF unit in UK, replaced as FZ161 by P-51C

FB185
42-103079 to RAF Jan 1944 as Mustang III FB185. Wrecked when swung on takeoff and hit Mustang FZ121 (43-6422) at Coolham May 20, 1944

FB131
42-103025 to RAF as Mustang III FB131. Crashed after colliding with Mustang FB222 (42-103116) near Nijmegen Jan 15, 1945

FB132
42-103026 to RAF Nov 1943 as Mustang III FB132. SOC Feb 24, 1947

FB399
42-103549 to RAF May 1944 as Mustang III FB399. SOC Feb 18, 1947

HB872
103761 to RAF Jul 1944 as Mustang III HB872. SOC Dec 28, 1946

FX939
43-12234 to RAF as Mustang III FX939. Missing from sweep over Germany Feb 21, 1945

FZ162
43-6543 to RAF as Mustang III FZ162. Hit trees and bellylanded 20 mileS of Brussels Oct 26, 1944 after engine failure.
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p51_9.html


kind regards
Ross

[BIGVERN1966]

Originally Posted by RossGmann

Is the following of any help ??
FB872
FZ195
SR433
FB112
HB872

FB155
42-103049 to RAF Dec 1943 as Mustang III FB155. SOC Feb 24, 1947
FZ165
43-6546 to RAF as Mustang III FZ165. SOC Feb 24, 1947

FB142
43-103036 was to have gone to RAF Dec 1943 as Mustang III FB142 but not delivered, went to USAAF unit in UK. Condemned salvage no battle damage Jun 8, 1944. Was replaced as FB142 by 42-103569

FB189
42-103083 to RAF Jan 1944 as Mustang III FB189. SOC Feb 24, 1947

FZ161
43-6542 was to have gone to RAF as Mustang III FZ161 Not delivered to RAF, went to USAAF unit in UK, replaced as FZ161 by P-51C

FB185
42-103079 to RAF Jan 1944 as Mustang III FB185. Wrecked when swung on takeoff and hit Mustang FZ121 (43-6422) at Coolham May 20, 1944

FB131
42-103025 to RAF as Mustang III FB131. Crashed after colliding with Mustang FB222 (42-103116) near Nijmegen Jan 15, 1945

FB132
42-103026 to RAF Nov 1943 as Mustang III FB132. SOC Feb 24, 1947

FB399
42-103549 to RAF May 1944 as Mustang III FB399. SOC Feb 18, 1947

HB872
103761 to RAF Jul 1944 as Mustang III HB872. SOC Dec 28, 1946

FX939
43-12234 to RAF as Mustang III FX939. Missing from sweep over Germany Feb 21, 1945

FZ162
43-6543 to RAF as Mustang III FZ162. Hit trees and bellylanded 20 mileS of Brussels Oct 26, 1944 after engine failure.
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p51_9.html


kind regards
Ross

Cheers Ross, However Steve has found what I was after and passed it on, I'll post the finished profile when its done. Cheers to everybody who replied. However one problem, the aircraft under side is very dark and no detail is visible except for a possible white stripe across the wing at about the point at which the aileron and flap meet. I do believe that the under wing D-day markings were removed on 2TAF / ADGB aircraft before Sep 44, hence did the RAF Mustangs have such a marking on the wings, post the removal of the D-Day wing stripes. Does anybody know??? State of play on profile attached.

Regards Richard