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Unknown German pilot, Aug. 29,1944
Dear friends,
on August 29th, 1944, 2ndBG flew the mission # 263, target Moravska Ostrava. 20thSqdn was attacked by 89 German fighters over white Carpathian mountains. Whole 20thSqdn (7 B-17G´s), one B-17G and one B-24 from another groups were shot down. 41 American fliers were kiiled, 28 of them buried at the mass grave in Slavicin (Czech Republic).I´m in touch with some American & German veterans participating on this battle. And now to my question: One of these B-17G´s, belonging to the 20thSqdn, #42-32048, MACR 8098, was shot down near small village Krhov. One of the German pilots participating on this kill landed on some airport (probably Kunovice or Otrokovice), toke a motorbike with the sidecar there, drove to Bojkovice (5 km away from crash place), toke a local photoghrafer and drove to the crash place with him in order to make some pictures. Unfortunately this photographer passed away, but I have heard that he mentioned the name of this German pilot as ''Novak''. We still don´t know the name of this pilot. Willi Reschke mentions in his book ''JG301/JG302'' a kill to Obfw. Heinz Nevack, 1./JG302. The names Novak & Nevack are similar, but we never saw a picture, nor any information about this pilot. I also have spoke about it with Willi Reschke but he also doesn´t know anything about him... May be this unknown pilot has nothing to do with this Nevack, so here is the list of German fighers with confirmed kills on that day: Fw. Karl Schauenberg, 4./JG300 Fw. Konrad Bauer, 5./JG300 Fw. Walter Vogel, 2./JG3 Uffz. Rudolf Hennersdorf, 1./JG300 Fw. Walter Loos, Stab/JG300 Uffz. Jürgen Wellhausen, 7./JG300 Uffz. Afred Büthe, 3./JG300 Fw Willi Unger, 15./JG3, 2 victories Uffz. Heinz-Julius Uchdorf, 16./JG3 Uffz. Klaus Neumann, 16./JG3 Oblt. Eberhard Schade, 6./JG27 Uffz. Hannes Schmitz, 1./JG300 Uffz. Paul Mang, 9./JG53 Uffz. Willi Reschke, 1./JG302 Uffz. Herman Heck, 9./JG53 Ofw. Adalbert Koch, 6./JG300 Ltn. Werner Hermann, 10./JG53 Uffz. Herman Pusch, 11./JG53 (or Günther Busch?) Oblt. Karl Ritter, 11./JG53 Ltn. Josef Törfer, 5./JG27 Obfw. Heinz Nevack, 1./JG302 Ofhr. Gerhard Piel, 5./JG300 Uffz. Hansotto Nehls, 11./JG300 Flg. Fritz Weinzierl, 11./JG53 Fw. Rudolf Zwesken, 6./JG300 Ltn. Lutz-Gottfried Hengst, 9./JG300 Ofhr. Herbert Köhler, 9./JG300 So it had to be someone of them, could anyone help me to identify this unknown pilot? Picture of him attached. Roman |
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Re: Unknown German pilot, Aug. 29,1944
O.K. As I can see no one knows who´s this pilot. I have pictures of some of these pilots so these can´t be locked out:
Fw. Karl Schauenberg, 4./JG300- Locked out Fw. Konrad Bauer, 5./JG300- Locked out Fw. Walter Vogel, 2./JG3 Uffz. Rudolf Hennersdorf, 1./JG300 Fw. Walter Loos, Stab/JG300- Locked out Uffz. Jürgen Wellhausen, 7./JG300 Uffz. Afred Büthe, 3./JG300 Fw Willi Unger, 15./JG3, 2 victories- Locked out Uffz. Heinz-Julius Uchdorf, 16./JG3 Uffz. Klaus Neumann, 16./JG3- Locked out Oblt. Eberhard Schade, 6./JG27 Uffz. Hannes Schmitz, 1./JG300 Uffz. Paul Mang, 9./JG53- Locked out Uffz. Willi Reschke, 1./JG302- Locked out Uffz. Herman Heck, 9./JG53 Ofw. Adalbert Koch, 6./JG300 Ltn. Werner Hermann, 10./JG53 Uffz. Herman Pusch, 11./JG53 (or Günther Busch?) Oblt. Karl Ritter, 11./JG53 Ltn. Josef Törfer, 5./JG27 Obfw. Heinz Nevack, 1./JG302 Ofhr. Gerhard Piel, 5./JG300- Locked out Uffz. Hansotto Nehls, 11./JG300- Locked out Flg. Fritz Weinzierl, 11./JG53 Fw. Rudolf Zwesken, 6./JG300- Locked out Ltn. Lutz-Gottfried Hengst, 9./JG300 Ofhr. Herbert Köhler, 9./JG300- Locked out Roman |
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Re: Unknown German pilot, Aug. 29,1944
No one has any information about this Heinz Nevack from 1./JG302?
Roman |
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Re: Unknown German pilot, Aug. 29,1944
Just a little note- according to my correspondence with Herrn Willi Reschke and Jean-Yves Lorant Ofw. Heinz Nevack has never existed.
The correct name is Ofw. Heinz Weuack, 2./JG300. |
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Re: Unknown German pilot, Aug. 29,1944
4 pics showing this pilot are here http://www.leteckabitvakarpaty.cz/usaf/letadlo4/
Just scroll the page down. |
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Re: Unknown German pilot, Aug. 29,1944
Just to add another note, the pilot is also identified as Uffz Mang from III.JG-53 in the publication "Luftwaffe: Air War Over the Czech Lands" by Jiri Rajlich (WWP Prague 2000). From the list above, that would be Uffz Paul Mang, 9./JG-53
Quote from publication: "Das is meine arbeit-...he should be Uffz Mang from III/JG-53...and these words were allegedly said at the wreckage of of the B-17G 42-32048 called "Mary" from the 20th BS." |
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Re: Unknown German pilot, Aug. 29,1944
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Re: Unknown German pilot, Aug. 29,1944
I'm sorry for bringing this old thread back to life but still no one able to idetify the pilot in question?
Thank you |
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Re: Unknown German pilot, Aug. 29,1944
Hallo seesul!
I think it is Johannes Schmitz, isn´t he? |
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