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Old 11th September 2016, 18:42
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Re: He 111 Stammkennzeichen

Does anyone know anything about He 111 TM+KM? (Another one that appears to be part of Kdo. Rastedter).

Also, Ju 188 NK+ZG (in the same context).
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Old 11th September 2016, 23:17
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Re: He 111 Stammkennzeichen

TM+KM He111H-6 7583, build around july 1942 by EHF,

NK+ZG, JU188F-1 280010, Junkers Bernburg around Sept. 43, seems to hv flown from Romilly in that same month , for the Kdo Rastedter/Kdo Koch nd so most probably Under III.KG40

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Old 12th September 2016, 02:49
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Re: He 111 Stammkennzeichen

280010 should been assembled in about June/July 43 (my calc./interpolation)

280010 Ju 188 F-1 [NK+ZG] 9./KG 40 (Luftflotte 3)
OPS (F) missing (100%) unk location 04.12.1943 (F Ofw. Otto Langner, B Fw. Werner Walter, BF Uffz. Peter Jansen, BF Obgefr. Erich Kobina <amd g/15.12.43> and BM Ofw. Fritz Törner mis)
[rep Ju 188 280010 NK+ZG in LWFLV losses 10v09.12.43; amd 280010 - unit III/KG 40 lists no Ju 188 on strength in that month - nor any other month! Photos of this ´test´ machine are known ´as taken at Bordeaux / Merignac Airfield´ - same photo in Robert Michulec “Ju 188 Ju 388” Pt.1 (English Text) P.19. - Rep used by Horch und Störstaffel 2 over the Bay of Biscay, stated in Barry Rosch {Classic Luftwaffe Colours} “Luftwaffe Support Units”]
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Old 12th September 2016, 09:21
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Re: He 111 Stammkennzeichen

Thanks everyone. From that, I see that there is a picture of NK+ZG in Chris Goss's "Sea Eagles, Volume Two" (Classic, 2006) on page 186. It has no upper turret but at least one additional "T" antenna above the cockpit.
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Re: He 111 Stammkennzeichen

A while ago I asked about He 111 TM+KM, which RT said was W.Nr. 7583.

However, I now find in the QMG loss returns that TM+KP, reported by II./KG 100 as lost on 2 September 1942, is also listed as 7583 (as I read the blurred image on the microfilm — see attached).

Can anyone say which St.Kz. went with which Werk Nummer (or perhaps deduce it from other W.Nr. in the TM+K_ series)?

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Re: He 111 Stammkennzeichen

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the WNr. in the loss report was reported in error. It should be 7586. He 111 H-6 WNr. 7583 TM+KM was in service with KG 101 in 3.43 and with LnVRgt. in 4.43.

At least this is what I have.

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Re: He 111 Stammkennzeichen

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the WNr. in the loss report was reported in error. It should be 7586. He 111 H-6 WNr. 7583 TM+KM was in service with KG 101 in 3.43 and with LnVRgt. in 4.43.

At least this is what I have.

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Thanks Norbert. The LN Versuchs Regiment makes sense since TM+KM was with Kdo. Rastedter over the Bay of Biscay on November 1943. Both KM and KP were with Kdo. Koch in 1942 in Greece so it's quite possible that someone inserted the wrong Werk Nummer when making the loss report.
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Re: He 111 Stammkennzeichen

Does anyone have information about another He 111 that is probably associated with the Köthen research establishment in 1942: GJ+JH?

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Re: He 111 Stammkennzeichen

He 111 H-6 WNr.7424 GJ+JH was with Beauftragter für Hochfrequenzforschung Travemünde. It made a crash landing on 10-May-44 due to technical problems at Stolp-Reitz. Damage 15%.

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Re: He 111 Stammkennzeichen

Thanks Norbert. It was with Kommando Koch in Crete and Greece in October 1942.
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