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HP O/400 16. Sept. 1918
Looking for an loss of an O/400 that day. Plane crashed during raid at the City of Dillingen, Crashplace Serrig near Trier. Maybee one from No. 100 Sqdn.?
Bests, H. |
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Re: HP O/400 16. Sept. 1918
The book ' Handley Page Bombers of WW1' shows the following losses on 16/17-9-18:-
100 Sqd. HP8302 landed with engine trouble by Darmstadt set on fire by crew POWs 115 Sqd. D4588 crew interned Luxembourg 215 Sqd C9658 crew 2x POWs 1 died C9727 crew interned Holland aircraft burnt target Cologne. D4566 crew POWs D9684 crew POWs 216 Sqd. C9662 shot down over Metz by flak crew POW's but 2/Lt Cole reported to have died ( text also shows Lt. Norcross as killed) Can't help with crash locations, hope this is of some help, Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: HP O/400 16. Sept. 1918
Hans
Just to correct a slight finger trouble from Brian HP8302 is of course D8302 and it is also reported as sized by the Germans intact.... Cheers Stig |
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Re: HP O/400 16. Sept. 1918
theres a photo existing showing the intact D8304 at a field near the small city of Gernsheim at the river Rhein.
khorat |
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Re: HP O/400 16. Sept. 1918
Thanks Khorat
D8304 was lost on a night raid 23/24.8.1918 and landed at Pechelbroun, Alsace (on the German side unfortunately for the crew) and Capt S.G. Gilmour and his crew were made POW. It had only served with 97 Sq for nine days.... Is this a photo of yours or perhaps on the internet? Cheers Stig |
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Re: HP O/400 16. Sept. 1918
Thank you all! One last question: Tell the book any details about Air Raids by 0/400 against Trier (Treves) and Koblenz (Coblence)?
Salut, Hans |
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Re: HP O/400 16. Sept. 1918
Hans,
The books index shows four mentions of Coblenz with three relating to raids, and five of Treves with three concerning raids. These are brief mentions with no great detail, Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: HP O/400 16. Sept. 1918
the photo was in n´old newspaper - and remember the museum in the small city of Gernsheim had a original photo - and its 8302 not 8304 I wrote in my message above- sorry.
khorat |
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Re: HP O/400 16. Sept. 1918
Thanks again Khorat
It seems like some crews were hopeful in their assumption they managed to destroy their aircraft. But who am I to critizise things like that? I have never experienced combat, being shot down or being taken POW or anything which confuses/stresses my brain to breaking point. In my mind, sample the facts, but let the individuals go. Many of them lived through hell anyway and they don't deserve easy chair modern day historian's snub nose comments (general statement and certainly not any finger against you!!) Cheers Stig |
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Re: HP O/400 16. Sept. 1918
According to Dutch online newspaper archives, C9727 landed at Oosterhout (NE of Breda, S. Netherlands) at 1.30 a.m. Crew set plane on fire. They had landed due to gas shortage and thought they were in enemy territory. Metz, France had been the target.
Regards, Leendert |
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