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Old 26th December 2012, 17:03
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

Accounts from the ground of a friendly fire attack on 25 December 1944 by P-38s (39 GI's dead):
http://www.grandmenil.com/friendly-f...of-grandmenil/
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Old 8th January 2013, 20:17
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Re: RAF Anson collision with BEA Dakota 19th Feb 1949 Exhall

Hello Brian

RAF Anson Collision 19 February 1949 at Exhall with BEA Dakota

I am not sure if you have/want this aerial incident, for your incidents section?

But found it in my local Nuneaton newspaper dated 22 April 1949. Exhall is between Coventry and the town of Bedworth in northern Warwickshire.

I have not researched it yet.

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Old 13th January 2013, 01:03
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

Hello,

I found this here in my routine KTB der Seekriegsleitung, Teil A, Bd. 53, reading:

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26.01.1944:
"Schwarzes Meer:
... Durch Fehlwurf eigenen Flugzeugs wurden durch Bombentreffer auf Südmole Kertsch Mole und Haka[Hafenkommandant]-Gebäude beschädigt. Eine 2cm Flak ist ausgefallen, 3 Mann sind gefallen."
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Old 13th January 2013, 21:58
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

Hello,

sorry, but I have to correct my last posting:

KTB der Seekriegsleitung, Teil A, Bd. 53, reading:

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27.01.1944:
"Schwarzes Meer:
...In Berichtigung der Meldung vom 26/1. ist der Luftangriff auf Südmole Kertsch nicht durch Fehlwurf eigener Flugzeuge sondern durch Angriff fdl. Flugzeug erfolgt."
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Old 13th January 2013, 23:38
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

Hi Darius

I've tried a translation but it doesn't make sense to me. Can you advise, please?

Black Sea:
...In amending the notification of 26/1 the airstrike on South Pier Kerch is fdl Fehlwurf of its own aircraft instead of attack. Aircraft is done."


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Old 15th January 2013, 01:00
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

The diary on the 26th listed the attack as being done by a friendly aircraft, the entry on the 27th corrects it by telling it was an enemy one (fdl being the short form of feindlich = enemy).
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Old 15th January 2013, 21:50
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Thank you Laurent for the translation.

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Old 7th March 2013, 21:27
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

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15Jul41 14:55 Defense of Hango: Ivan Savelyevich Kozlov (Order of Red Banner), Flight Commander of 13 IAP VMF was flying a I-153. Alexei Kasyanovich Antonenko (HSU) and Peter Antonovich Brinko (HSU) observed Kolzlov's plane heading head on towards them and believed it to be a Finnish fighter. They fired at it and Kozlov was shot down and killed. Antonenko was KIA 26Jul41 and Brinko was KIA 14Sep41.
A possible add-on to the above case, but that will need some validation before: according to one source (http://forum.patriotcenter.ru/index....c=31140.0;wap2), Brinko had been awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union the day before, and not yet sobered from the celebration. He was still drunk and so shot down Kozlov's I-153 (some were used by the Finnish, to be honest) but then, accodring to the same source, also attacked the pilot who bailed out and killed him under his parachute. When the mistake was realized, it was hushed from official records.

I would like to know the comments of our Russian friends on this one.
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

On 18 July 1942 the fighter of Leytenant Ivan G. Shemyakin of 873 IAP was hit by Flak during a combat mission and he had to force-land on friendly territory in the Nizhne-Soloninskaya area, but was then killed by his own troops that took him for an enemy pilot.

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I thought it was high time this thread was made a sticky. I can't think why we didn't do it before it got to 64 pages!
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