Heinkel B W.Nr. 2196 and W.Nr. 2177

[Tolesa]

Hello all, have you got infos about history and accidents of this two W.Nr. HE 111, please? Many thanks. Tolesa

[ianatheling]

Hi Tolesa

Do you mean Heinkel He 111B? If you do, I am fairly sure that these WNr's would be late He111B-2 series, but nothing else to offer at present

Ian

[Tolesa]

Hello Ian, of course, He 111, I corrected it now...

[ianatheling]

A few He111B-2's with WNr's in this range finished their lives with FFS C6 and C9.

Ian

[RT]

2196 was accepted i.April 40 at Erfurt, probably after some accident or "Umbau", Why about these ones ??

Rémi

[Tolesa]

Finished their lives? Erfurt in France or in Germany? Many thanks. I have my own theory about something with several crashed planes so I need more infos cause I want know denouement of all...

[RT]

Erfurt pretty far from France, even if we hv stollen some german-speaking lands in the past , no Erfurt drin, no-end live, but contrary the 2196 hv been new accepted , like after an accident or some important change in the plane structure

Rémi

[Tolesa]

2196 after accident was rebuilt on some other type? Could it be P 2 or some other? Thanks, Rémi. M.

[RT]

We are there conjecturing, the only fact is that the plane was accpted in April 40, as that date pretty far from man. date, we could suppose that acceptation resulted from a major event, overhaul, repair, or modification, change of engines ?? Never seen picture of an old frame with DB engines..

Rémi

[ianatheling]

There were almost certainly two different He111’s with the WNr. 2196. The first would have been a He111B-2. But this work number block was also used for He111P-2. These are not re-builds, but new aircraft. The 2196 at Erfurt in April 1940 could be either aircraft. If it was the He111P-2 we would suspect that it was still an operational aircraft. If the He111B-2 still existed at this time then it would have been retired to a training unit some time before.


Ian