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Old 20th December 2013, 13:33
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JG27, late September 1942

Does anyone know where in the Western Desert JG27 was located in late September 1942? I suspect it was somewhere near El Alamein.

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Re: JG27, late September 1942

Which Gruppe?
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Old 20th December 2013, 13:57
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Re: JG27, late September 1942

Bill,

Stab JG27 Oberstleutnant Edu Neumann based at Mumin Busak

I/JG27 Hptm Gerhard Homuth based at Quotaifiya

II/JG27 Hptm Gustav Rodel based at Quotaifiya

III/JG27 Hptm Erhard Braune based at Turbiya

V Gruppe formed the following year.

hope this helps, did you get the article from Jaegerblatt you were after as I have every copy from the 50s onwards, all the best,

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Old 20th December 2013, 16:30
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Re: JG27, late September 1942

Chris,
Sorry, don't know the Gruppe. I do know that Anton Woffen was a pilot in the Staffel I'm interested in - if that helps.

David,
In addition to the above, I did not get the article from Jägerblatt but Russell Guest (Australia) kindly sent me an account from a Memoir by Anton Woffen, though I don't know when that was written. I would appreciate a copy of the relevant article (Jägerblatt, issue 8/1984, if you are willing to email.

Incidentally, my current search relates to an article I wrote for FlyPast a year ago ("Desert Encounter" August issue,, 2012). While researching that piece I received help from Forum members in the UK, USA and Germany and now Australia can be added to the list - which is a rather long-winded way of saying what a great forum TOCH is!. Here endeth the Lesson.

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Re: JG27, late September 1942

Bill,

I have the 6 editions of Jaegerblatt for 1984 in front of me but there is no 8/84.

6/84 is December's edition.

I could check each page by page but perhaps you could clarify which edition the article is in,

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Old 20th December 2013, 19:52
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Re: JG27, late September 1942

David,
Thanks for looking. I wonder, would 8/1984 refer to August (8th month)?

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Re: JG27, late September 1942

Bill,

I have Feb/March 1984
April/May
June/July
Sept
November
December.

I'll go through them individually and see what I come up with,

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Old 21st December 2013, 13:45
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Re: JG27, late September 1942

Chris/David,
New information suggests that Anton Wöffen was with 5./JG27 (Gruupe II), which - as David's info tells me - was based at Quotaifiya. I cannot find the place on a map or on Google. Has the name changed? Any idea where it used to be - assuming it no longer exists?

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Re: JG27, late September 1942

Bill,

I believe that it may have changed name, although I have found an airfield called El Qutaifiya, which is on the coast road between Mersa Matruh and El Dabu.

It was an active airfield during the African Campaign anf I found a map of it on a Google search, which interestingly enough was in German and dated late 1941!

Its exact location is 105 kms south east of Mersa Matruh and 14 kms west of El Daba. I also found a google entry claiming that Marseille had landed there. I would therfore suggest they are one of the same unless someone else can shed any further light on it.

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Re: JG27, late September 1942

Forgot to mention - it's in Egypt!
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