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Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills
Good afternoon Gentlemen,
I really look forward to the book of Mister Bykov. However, it doesn't include Shturmovik aces, does it ? In STALIN'S FALCONS by Polak I found 4-5 Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills (shared kills counted as decimals):
Cheers, Michael |
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Re: Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills
We can add:
Vladimir I.Streltchenko=13(1+12 shared) Otari G.Goltchine=16(4+12 shared) Victor A.Kondakov=15(5+10 shared) Otari G.Tchetchelashvili=15(5+10 shared) Vasilij I.Kozlovskij=12(+68 tanks,530 vehicles,5 locomotives,67 waggons) michel |
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Re: Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills
to add
Yefim A.Mikhalenkov=12 Michel |
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Re: Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills
Hello Michel,
nice you join in. I did not include Strelchenko and Chechelashvili because I prefer to count shares as decimals. Is Otari G.Goltchine connected to Ivan Konstantinovich Golchin (2+14 kills) ? I did not know that Kondakov has also 10 shared kills. I did not know Vasilij I.Kozlovskij. Impressive record. It was not my intention to omit Mikhalenkov. Thanks for adding. Michael |
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Re: Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills
Good morning,
I also found Nikolai Chuvin, 11 aerial victories. Michael |
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Re: Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills
Addendum:
STALIN'S EAGLES gives the following ShAP pilots with 10 kills minimum
Michael |
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Re: Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills
...I should not forget the greatest Il-2 pilot of them all.
Aleksandr Jefimov, 5+2sh kills http://aces.safarikovi.org/victories/sssr-bomb.html I just finished working through his biography written by Oleg Rastrenin which was published in AVIONS #163. Highly recommendable ! Cheers, Michael |
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Re: Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills
Gentlemen,
Wasn't there a topic a few years ago on this forum about how effective the Il-2 Shturmovik was against ground targets and armor? I also never heard of Vasilij I. Kozlovskij and thought his ground kill scores to be questionable. Edward L. Hsiao |
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Re: Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills
Good morning Edward,
yes, I think it's so much more difficult to tell if a tank that has been hit is "destroyed" or not than it is to define an airkill. http://aces.safarikovi.org/victories/sssr-tank.html Where there any fixed criteria for the former ? Have a nice Wednesday, Michael |
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Re: Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills
That list of Soviet tank killers was based on Soviet sources and not believed at all by a lot of people of the world. I for one didn't believe that list. Victor Golubjev's vehicle kills of 875 is not right. Very few German tank crews and truck and other vehicle drivers had ever given reports about how effective Soviet ground assault planes were.
Sincerely, Edward L. Hsiao |
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