Help to solve the real identity off me109 at sola aviation museum

[RolandF]

According to Vogt, the instrument panels of the Bf 109G-6 changed from aluminum to wood approx. from WNr 19000 - i.e. from spring 1943 on.

Regards

Roland

[harrison987]

You are not looking at the seat back.

You are looking at the support for the fuel tank. They were ALL made of wood from the F-K.

Mike

[taitbb]

Thank you Mike, appreciated.

[eknutson]

I found this picture at airrecce.co.uk. It shows Rb12,5 in different situations. The left one is a possible solution, or 2 standard. One camera front and one in aft hatch. I have also got a picture off the 20mm shells, showing date 1942. Now the question is, how long storage time had the ammonution. As there seems to be no indication on the production month, Can we say this was used up at latest mars april 1943.

[eknutson]

And i meen i have found the solution for numbering the main landing gear attacments. I found this document on the internet ( i have forgotten wher ), showing all the modification done to all Bf types up to 1943. Here i found modification done to the F2 attacments. Thats way it is numberd, too show on next level airframe that they are modified units in the W,Nr block. On our aiframe F2 attacments are modified to G2 standard. If new parts are instaled, they are already modified to this standard, so it is not neccesary to add numbers. Like the G2 in bodø, new built, no numbers at all.

[harrison987]

Originally Posted by eknutson

I found this picture at airrecce.co.uk. It shows Rb12,5 in different situations. The left one is a possible solution, or 2 standard. One camera front and one in aft hatch. I have also got a picture off the 20mm shells, showing date 1942. Now the question is, how long storage time had the ammonution. As there seems to be no indication on the production month, Can we say this was used up at latest mars april 1943.

No...you can still find complete, unused rounds dated 1941 from old storage. So 1942 dated rounds could have been used to the end of the war.

Mike

[eknutson]

I agree that the ammo could bee stored to the end of the war. But i think as Norway was a " quiet " place in 42 / 43 the ammo whould bee needed more on other fronts. We will look closer on this. I also think i have the solution for the letters FF2 on the main spar. As the early F1/2 had a 15mm Mg installed, they were upraded to 2Cm ( 20mm ) hence the FF2 ( MG FF 2 Cm ) May be the spar or structure needed modifications.

[eknutson]

Here i have tried to put up a table over the airframes history. Starting with WNF F2 production G1 / G2 production Losses and the main landing gear modification in Blue. AS this airframe, like the Black 6 is not finished as pressurized one, i asume its only Erla and the Regensburg factories can be the rebuilder of this airframe.

[eknutson]

Anyone having mor info about this loss from Jg11. Is it a BF109 or Fw190.
If there are mor losses from Jg11 / Jg 1 operating in the north sea crashing near Varhaug / Sirevåg / south of Stavanger 1942 - 43

[Rasmussen]

Isn't an loss of the JG 1/11 but an air victory of this unit.

Regards
Rasmussen