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Old 31st October 2016, 16:48
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24 April 1944

Hello gentlemen,

on April 24, 1944 the JG.106 lost a Bf.109 (destroyed) while three were damaged (with 1 pilot killed and 1 wounded) in combat against 8th Air Force while VbdFhr Schule lost 4 Bf.109s (with 3 pilots killed and 1 wounded).
Can anybody help with the details of these human and material losses?
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Old 31st October 2016, 17:10
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Re: 24 April 1944

Hello Marco!

From the loss list of JG 106:

24.04.1944 2./JG 106 Bf 109 G-2, W.-Nr.10820, Lt. Groo,Karl, wounded
Lachen-Speyerdorf
24.04.1944 2./JG 106 Bf 109 G-2, W.-Nr.14712, Fw. Halmai,Norbert, KIA
Winnsweiler /Kaiserslautern


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Old 31st October 2016, 19:39
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Re: 24 April 1944

There was one Lt. Karl Broo with 2./JG 106 around that period - http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/archiv...p?t-39898.html , sounds too similar to Lt. Karl Groo to be a coincidence, or is it?
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Old 1st November 2016, 07:26
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Re: 24 April 1944

Good morning, Sidney!

You are right! After checking deZeng/Stankey right name must be
Karl Broo. I´ll correct this in loss list JG 106.

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Old 1st November 2016, 10:04
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Re: 24 April 1944

Good morning, Wolfgang.

Lt. Karl Broo was one of the late WW2 period Luftwaffe aces, hence I was familiar with his name to some extent.

Thank you for the loss-list details provided. I am glad that I was of some assistance in the matter.

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Old 1st November 2016, 10:30
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Re: 24 April 1944

These 2 complete the board .

22 24 4 44 LF Reich JG 106 F Herzogenaurach FP A F BF109G-6 160631 10
13 24 4 44 LF Reich LKS 4 F Fürstenfenfelbruck A Fbordw, JU-W34hau 1480 100 2

Eberhardt hans uffz bs t
Roth erwin oblt f t

Plus lot of machines damaged on the ground

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Old 1st November 2016, 10:35
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Re: 24 April 1944

By the way, what about, the same day that one ...

24 4 44 II FAG 101 PQ 7651 Wasserberührung JU88 100 09h50 Geborgen n, 8 minuten d, Boot
Hermann georg ofw v,,
Lieret rudi ge t
???

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Old 2nd November 2016, 00:12
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Re: 24 April 1944

Wolfgang, Sinisa, Rémi,
Thank you very much for your input.
Do you know the percentual damege of the Bf.109 G-2, W.-Nr.10820 of Lt. Karl Broo?
It remains a mystery the loss of 4 Bf.109s of "Verbandsführerschule für Jagdfliegerausbildung" (a unit totaly unknown to me) based on Fels am Wagram which, according to Caldwell, occurred on this day.
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Old 2nd November 2016, 09:50
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Re: 24 April 1944

The plane of Broo was only superficialy damaged,

Concerning Caldwell sayings, thought he is a respected author, so big losses for one unit in one day hv could hv not be missed by others "searchers"

To say that very few losses are registred for that unit

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Old 2nd November 2016, 12:45
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Re: 24 April 1944

The "Verbandsführerlehrgang des GdJ" was based at Fels am Wagram together with I./JG 27 in spring 1944. The latter unit lost four aircraft that day against American fighters.
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