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Old 19th August 2016, 16:03
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Re: Crashlanded Me109G in Norway, 1944

The “black 10” was a Bf 109G-2, this version was flown by I./JG 5 until January 1944 and by IV./JG 5 until November 1944. Furthermore the IV./JG 5 left Norway around 5.09.44 to reinforce the elements of JG 5 in Finland.

The above facts are reducing the possibilities to IV. Gruppe and the time slot from July to early September. The monthly reports for the Gruppe are listing G-2 losses as follows: two by accidents in July and two by accidents in September. The first accident during September is dated 5.09.44, it happened most probably during the transfer to Finland and not at the Southcoast.

This leaves as possibilities only the two accidents from 6.07.44 and 20.07.44, for which no detailed data are available. The planes lost on 30.07.44 (mentioned in post #5) were all G-6 versions and the accident on 18.07.44 was from 12.Staffel and it’s pilot is reported missing.
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Old 19th August 2016, 16:43
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Re: Crashlanded Me109G in Norway, 1944

Hello Gerhard,
thank you, this new information and the identification of subtype was most helpful.

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The “black 10” was a Bf 109G-2, this version was flown by I./JG 5 until January 1944 and by IV./JG 5 until November 1944. Furthermore the IV./JG 5 left Norway around 5.09.44 to reinforce the elements of JG 5 in Finland.

The above facts are reducing the possibilities to IV. Gruppe and the time slot from July to early September. The monthly reports for the Gruppe are listing G-2 losses as follows: two by accidents in July and two by accidents in September. The first accident during September is dated 5.09.44, it happened most probably during the transfer to Finland and not at the Southcoast.

This leaves as possibilities only the two accidents from 6.07.44 and 20.07.44, for which no detailed data are available. The planes lost on 30.07.44 (mentioned in post #5) were all G-6 versions and the accident on 18.07.44 was from 12.Staffel and it’s pilot is reported missing.
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Old 19th August 2016, 17:01
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Re: Crashlanded Me109G in Norway, 1944

This was in the August 44 and Stavanger is a long way from the proposed wheels up landing. The Americans had know joy that day apart from strafing a Junkers 52 on the deck if my memories correct.

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Old 19th August 2016, 21:44
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Re: Crashlanded Me109G in Norway, 1944

There is a G-2 014700 of 12/JG5 involved in an accident at Forus on 5th-May-44 due to engine fire no % shown Uffz Martin Ulmann inj. Same pilot shown injured in crash-landing in G-2 14675 on 8th April-44 due to engine fire but this time 100% so not the one in the photo - Source Eric Mombeek JG5 history

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Old 27th January 2018, 22:29
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Re: Crashlanded Me109G in Norway, 1944

I went through this database and sorted out some candidates based on status and unit (non-combat related losses and IV./JG 5)

29.09.1944 IV./J.G.5 1 21 01.10.1944
08.10.1944 IV./J.G.5 1 20 10.10.1944
08.10.1944 IV./J.G.5 1 20 14.10.1944
25.11.1944 IV./J.G.5 1 22 27.11.1944
11.11.1944 IV./J.G.5 1 22 13.11.1944
30.10.1944 IV./J.G.5 1 22 02.11.1944
18.10.1944 IV./J.G.5 1 23 23.10.1944
30.11.1944 IV./J.G 5 1 23 02.12.1944
01.12.1944 IV./J.G.5 1 23 04.12.1944


Anyone with some more information about these cases, so it's possible to minimize the list of possible matches with this crash?

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Old 3rd June 2018, 17:41
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Re: Crashlanded Me109G in Norway, 1944

I'm still in the dark with this case. As "Merlin" indicated in his post from august 16th 2016, the time slot for this accident is probably between july and september (1944).
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Old 1st November 2018, 11:05
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Re: Crashlanded Me109G in Norway, 1944

Could it have been one of the machines belonging to either JG 1 or JG 11 operating in Denmark?
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Old 6th December 2018, 14:50
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Re: Crashlanded Me109G in Norway, 1944

There is a good chance that this machine experienced some action in the high north. Has anyone come across pictures of "Black 10" from either Northern Norway or Finland from around 43/44?
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