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Old 18th March 2017, 21:10
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Wellington crashed Wilhelmshaven

Hi all,

Who can help me identify this Wellington Bomber, which crashed into the harbour of Wilhelmshaven Germany.
You can see the first letter of the serienr "R"

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Old 18th March 2017, 21:24
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Re: Wellington crashed Wilhelmshaven

Hello Michel,

Do you have any info as to a date when the Wellington was shot down, perhaps noted on the back of the photo? I can check the Wilhelmshaven Flak claims but need a time frame in which to search.

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Re: Wellington crashed Wilhelmshaven

Hi Theo,
Unfortunately, there's nothing written on the back...that's the problem

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Old 19th March 2017, 14:52
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Re: Wellington crashed Wilhelmshaven

Serial "R1###"
Possibly R16## or R18##
So narrows it down a little as does the wide white bar in the fin marking, May 1940 - July 1942.

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Old 19th March 2017, 15:52
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Re: Wellington crashed Wilhelmshaven

Alas I've no Wellington loss in the Wilhelmshaven bay area starting with R16.. or R18..

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Old 19th March 2017, 17:34
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Re: Wellington crashed Wilhelmshaven

Hello,
Have looked in BCL books for 1941/42.
These may be possibilities -
All are "R" a/c
1016 - 15/8/41
1045 - 22/2/41
1604 - 29/30/8/41
1608 - 25/6/41
1608 - 25/6/41
1614 - 15/7/41
1800 - 3/8/41
1802 - 13/3/42

Of the above 1800;1608 and 1045 may deserve a closer look.

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Re: Wellington crashed Wilhelmshaven

Hi Guys,

Many thanks for your info,
Alex I want to a closer look of 1800, 1608 and 1045

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Re: Wellington crashed Wilhelmshaven

Hi Alex and Michel -I've checked but none of these three Wellington losses fit to a crash near Wilhelmshaven.

I wil give details on al of these losses in my new series of books with Wing Leader Publishing.

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Old 20th March 2017, 23:08
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Re: Wellington crashed Wilhelmshaven

Hello,

Have now checked the BCL for 1940/41/42.

R1045 - 149 Sqdn - 21/22 - 2 - 1941- Op Wilhelmshaven.
Lost without trace.

R1608 - 57 Sqdn - Op to Kiel.
Believed crashed in the sea near the target. Crew of 6, 5 were recovered.

Only R18## serial a/c were -
R1804 - 311 Sqdn - 19-7-1941 on Air Test and crashed into a steam roller.
And
R1800 - 101 Sqdn - G1 )2/3-8-1941 "SR-T" Op to Hamburg.
S/d by night fighter(Few. Siegfried Ney,e 4./NJG 1 ) and crashed in the Ijsselmeer.
Two bodies were recovered from the water. The rest have no known graves.

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Re: Wellington crashed Wilhelmshaven

It is not R1608. That plane crashed on land
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