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Old 1st May 2023, 02:06
Adriano Baumgartner Adriano Baumgartner is offline
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Allied loss at Rimini (1944)

Is there a record to a Martin Maryland lost near Rimini, in 1944?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flak-Rgt-53-...p2047675.l2557

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Old 1st May 2023, 14:06
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Re: Allied loss at Rimini (1944)

Hello,

Possibly another Martin's type - Baltimore. From AIR-27-519-9 and 10 we know that on the night 2/3 July 1944 special close work in front of the bomb line in Arezzo was carried by 12 Baltimores of No. 55 Sqn RAF and Baltimore V FW299/Y was lost near Rimini on armed recce Arezzo-Fano-Rimini-Sansepulcro.

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Old 1st May 2023, 14:45
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Re: Allied loss at Rimini (1944)

Zoran,

My deepest gratitude for this information. You surely gave me a North. Photo of the wreck do not give us a clue to the serial number or codes.

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Old 1st May 2023, 15:08
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Re: Allied loss at Rimini (1944)

http://www.southafricawargraves.org/...ls.php?id=9262
http://www.aereiperduti.net/approfon.../corinaldo.php
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Old 3rd June 2023, 15:13
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Re: Allied loss at Rimini (1944)

Zoran,

Just for curiosity, would you have information about a Bristil Beaufighter lost near Rimini ?
The images arrived yesterday, after a long delay....and the left wing (watching from the front) looks like that of a Beaufighter. The filter on the side, near the engine nacelle really looks like...and the Baltimore and Maryland did not have that on the left wing (watchin from the front - or right wing if you are sitting on the cockpit). So, it looks like a Beaufighter crash - near or close to Rimini.

Any help in ID the probable candidate would be most welcomed

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Old 4th June 2023, 08:52
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Re: Allied loss at Rimini (1944)

Hello,
One Beaufighter crashed on unknown location on armed recce from Foggia to North Adriatic, TFX NV789 'B', but I believe it ended in the sea.
But You may be interested in 600 Sqn's activity: Beaufighter Mk VIF ND162 (6-E) Rees s/d Ju 87 near river Tiber 13/14.5.44 and Ju 87 near Rimini 4/5.9.44.
ND172 (6-B) 3/4.9.44 s/d one and shared another Ju 87 Stuka near Rimini.
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Old 4th June 2023, 14:05
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Re: Allied loss at Rimini (1944)

Good morning Zoran.

There are several 414thNF and 416thNF machines missing that could also be taken in account. I believe I will have to dig much deeper to find out...

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase...atekey&page=20

A friend of mine will have a look at his "Mediterranean Air War - volume 5" for me.

I will try to find the ORB of the Beaufighter Squadrons meanwhile....According to the terrain (slightly mountaineous) and weather, it looks like Autumn of 1944...possibly a loss related to the Battle of Rimini, circa mid September 1944 (not sure though, just a guess).

Photo clearly shows a left wing (seeing from the front) or right wing (sitting in cockpit) with 3-4 machine guns and a filter, which points or suggest the wing of a Bristol Beaufighter. Engine clearly a radial with thin propellers (again pointing to a Beaufighter). Not much left of the fuselage...just part of the tail. Airplane burned a lot.

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Old 4th June 2023, 16:36
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Re: Allied loss at Rimini (1944)

Zoran,
Can you re-confirm the Beaufighter lost on the armed recce please? NV789 is a Tempest serial.
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Old 4th June 2023, 17:46
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Re: Allied loss at Rimini (1944)

Hello Andy,
This is as in 272 Sqn's orb https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...mageViewerLink
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Old 5th June 2023, 13:02
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Re: Allied loss at Rimini (1944)

OK. This loss was actually NV442, which appears correctly as "B" in the ORB for the previous month. I have no idea where the ORB compiler got NV789 from!
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