Late war Bf 109 pictures source

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hi Steve,

You're breaking new ground here! Until now, I had as a reference Anders Hjørtsberg's statement this pic was taken at Kassel-Waldau, unit unknown. The background barracks do look familiar with other Neubiberg pics indeed.

As for the plane itself, it has the characteristic low-spine camouflage line of either Erla or WNF produced Bf 109 G-10's. The plain underwing Balkenkreuz does point though to either an WNF or a Mtt built machine. Lots of uncertainties here, also compounded by the tactical markings as well: the low contrast white outlined "13" could be consistent with a NAG machine too, and we're deprived on this shot from any clear indication what the fuselage colors were behind the fuselage Balkenkreuz.... A really tantalizing plane indeed.

Thanks so much for your input, hoping that further details will emerge so we can pinpoint that particular G-10!

Cheers
Marc

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Indeed, not the same picture, but the same machine..

Hi Marc,

???

Of course the same machine, but not the same picture, where we cannot see the interesting part ... What an evidence!

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Thanks to David Litton, over on facebook.com, We have again an interesting - for me - new case:

www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/15281954402/

Could "Schwarze 2" be an elusive Erla built Bf 109 K-4 ? Which possible unit ?

Thanks in advance!
Marc

[ouidjat]

Hi Marc, Link doesn't work

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Correct, Franck: in the mean tim, and thanks to a lead from Anders, I tracked back the culprit: Fw. Willy Rühl, 14./JG 300 ;-)

Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Schwarze 2", Lt. Willy Rühl, 14./JG 300, Reinsdorf, early March 1945. Source: Lorant et Goyat 2005, p. 212.
www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/11465698265

Cheers
Marc

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hi there Gang,

Hi there Gang,

This one is pretty baffling for me:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Deut-Jagdflug...item4d2465e7e1

A very interesting III./JG 77 machine, which at first sight I would have passed as an early Bf 109 G....But beware! Erla Haube and late III./JG 77 Wolf emblem... Seems thus to be an Erla built G-6/AS or G-14/AS, IMHO. Any ideas as to when and where (Wien-Seyring, August 1944 (?).

Cheers
Marc

[Charles Bavarois]

To #736

Hello Marc,

no K-4, but rather a regular B f109 F. You can see the middle part of the three-piece canopy with a narrow framing and also the slim and tall antenna-mast on top of the fuselage. No trace of the FuG 16 ZY wip-antenna under the wing. Using a little photoshoping, you may also recognize the old style Balkenkreuz on top of the left wing with a black-colored center.

CRL

[Falcon]

Bf 109 F, yes thats it.

Originally Posted by Charles Bavarois

To #736

Hello Marc,

no K-4, but rather a regular B f109 F. You can see the middle part of the three-piece canopy with a narrow framing and also the slim and tall antenna-mast on top of the fuselage. No trace of the FuG 16 ZY wip-antenna under the wing. Using a little photoshoping, you may also recognize the old style Balkenkreuz on top of the left wing with a black-colored center.

CRL

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Many thanks Carl and David for bringing me back to reality! Goodbye late war Erla low-vis camouflage, back to basics of 109'ology...

Much appreciated!
Marc

[Marc-André Haldimann]

And now with a real late-war Bf 109:

www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/15324578205/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

By courtesy of David Weiss, here are two pics of a very wet Bf 109. IMHO, it seems to be a WNF built Bf 109 G-14/AS. Any ideas about location, date, and if it was attributed to a unit?

Thanks in advance
Marc