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Information concerning loss of Ltn. Alois Preisinger - Nachtjager - 05.11.1943
Hi,
Can anyone provide details of the loss of Ltn. Alois Preisinger who was killed on the night of the 5th November 1943? He was a Nachtjager. Please see his sterbebild below for further details. Thanks as always Rick |
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Alois Preisinger - Nachtjager - 05.11.1943
1943-11-05, 7./NJG 200, Ju 88C-6, 720074, 1 km südlich Seibolsdorf, Neuburg/Donau, Absturz infolge Bedienungsfehler. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Preisinger, Alois, + Bordfunker Fw Büttner, Wilhelm, + Bordmechaniker Flg Schwingenschlögl, Ferdinand, + GQM gives 720014, but it seems to be outside any known WNr.-block. Matti |
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Alois Preisinger - Nachtjager - 05.11.1943
This may not be important but I note that the WNr. 720074 was carried by a Bf 110G-4. NJG 200 certainly had Bf 110Gs, but I am not sure about 7./NJG200. Could this perhaps have been a Bf110 which was incorrectly listed as a Ju88C-6 simply on the basis that most other aircraft in this staffel were Ju 88C-6s?
I don't have any other details on the Bf110 720074. Ian |
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Alois Preisinger - Nachtjager - 05.11.1943
I still believe, that Ju 88C-6, WNr. 720074 is correct. It is from NVM and therefore more reliable than GQM info. Also Bf 110G-4, WNr. 720074 of 3./NJG 3 was destroyed 1944-04-27 and Bf 110G-4, WNr. 720014 of 5./NJG 102 was destroyed 1944-07-19.
Matti |
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Alois Preisinger - Nachtjager - 05.11.1943
Thanks Matti for ruling out the Bf110, it was hopefully useful to remove this an explanation for the curious WNr.
Ian |
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Alois Preisinger - Nachtjager - 05.11.1943
This is not a particularly curious W.Nr. for a Ju 88C-6. The 720xxx block was correct for a small group of Nachbau Ju 88 C-6s assembled in late 1943. This block was the only group of Ju 88 fighters not assembled by JFM FZB (Bernburg) or one of its dispersal sites.
Best Regards, Artie Bob |
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Alois Preisinger - Nachtjager - 05.11.1943
Based on Verlustmeldungen, it seems, that at least the following Ju 88C-6 aircraft were in 720xxx block:
720074 - 720120 720321 - 720326. Therefore I suggested, that 720014 from GQM cannot be correct and 720074 from NVM is correct. Matti |
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Alois Preisinger - Nachtjager - 05.11.1943
I did not have my spreadsheet available when I posted yesterday. Now have access and there are two other entries for W.Nr.720014, so I believe it is valid. I have also cross-checked the number of entries for this block (720xxx) against the Monatsmeldung totals and they balance out pretty well.
Best Regards, Artie Bob |
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Re: Information concerning loss of Ltn. Alois Preisinger - Nachtjager - 05.11.1943
I have two others captured in Norway from this WNr. block -
Ju 88C-6, 720011, ./., , IV., 11., ZG 26, , , , , 08-May-45, Captured EOW., , Norwegen, SIG LW Homepage, , Fl.Pl. Gardermoen, , F, , , Ju 88C-6, 720012, ./., , IV., 11., ZG 26, , , , , 08-May-45, Captured EOW., , Norwegen, SIG LW Homepage, , Fl.Pl. Gardermoen, , F, , , |
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