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Old 10th February 2021, 15:20
Dötlingen 1961 Dötlingen 1961 is offline
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Crash Halifax Dezember 4, 1943 near Wildeshausen

Hello everybody!
I'm trying to resolve another crash near my home town.
On December 4th, 1943, a Halifx crashed near Kleinenkneten (south of Wildeshausen).
Unfortunately, no further information is available.
Many thanks for the help!

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Old 10th February 2021, 16:32
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Re: Crash Halifax Dezember 4, 1943 near Wildeshausen

Hello,

Possibly, No.77 Sqn Halifax II DT730 that crashed between Oldenburg and Cloppenburg:

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C1252702 - Download - go to p.270 of 534. (BCL4/415)

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Old 11th February 2021, 11:02
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Re: Crash Halifax Dezember 4, 1943 near Wildeshausen

or Halifax HX191 ZA-J crashed 02:25 Uhr near Cloppenburg
6 dead, 2 POW
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Old 11th February 2021, 22:30
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Re: Crash Halifax Dezember 4, 1943 near Wildeshausen

429 Squadron Halifax JD374 crashed at Kleinenkneten at 02.50 hrs, shot down by Nachtjäger:

Oblt. Wilhelm Martin 1./NJG3 Halifax E. Kleinenkneten, NE Vechta: 5.200 m. 02.50 429 Sqn Halifax JD374. Note: claim not listed in OKL/RLM Confirmed Abschussübersicht of 1./NJG3

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Old 12th February 2021, 11:17
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Re: Crash Halifax Dezember 4, 1943 near Wildeshausen

Hello everyone!
In the crash there were:
4 KiA
3 POW
Does anyone have pictures of the crew or the machine?

Greeting,
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Old 12th February 2021, 13:52
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Re: Crash Halifax Dezember 4, 1943 near Wildeshausen

It looks like Theo's post on Halifax JD374 from 429 squadron is the most likely match. 4 killed and 3 POW.

http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=JD374

Looking at where the bodies were first buried, It turns out all 4 were first buried at Vechta and all in adjacent graves.

Shade in grave 237:
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/fi.../#&gid=2&pid=1

Morro, Cabana, and Kelso in 238, 239, 240

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/fi.../#&gid=2&pid=2


All four are now at Sage War Cemetery.


Several crewmembers appear on this January 17, 1944 casualty list:

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/7008...nipeg-tribune/

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