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Old 30th June 2008, 03:17
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Looking for Spitfires losses over Sicily on the 10th July 1943

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I am seeking more information about RAF losses over Sicily on the 10th July 1943. Would be very interested on the serial and code numbers of aircraft from 43 Squadron or a link to those losses.
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Old 30th June 2008, 12:44
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Re: Looking for Spitfires losses over Sicily on the 10th July 1943

Hi Adriano
"Spitfires over Sicily", Cull/Malizia/Galea gives no 43 Sqn losses for 10/7/43. They give as Spitfire losses
JL375/SN-Z,243 Sqn
EN 148/SN-E,243 Sqn
EP690, 40 Sqn SAAF
ER706,40 Sqn SAAF
JL182, 92 Sqn
EP440, 92 Sqn
EN466, 93 Sqn
ER856/LE-S,242 Sqn
EN295/V-B,1435 Sqn
JL361/V-N,1435 Sqn
plus 2 ?Spitfires of the US 307th FS shot down by USN flak
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Old 30th June 2008, 18:08
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Re: Looking for Spitfires losses over Sicily on the 10th July 1943

Thank you Shack!
May I ask you if you do have the names of the RAF pilots shot down as well as the hours of combats involved. I am trying to figure out which LW pilot shot down of of those RAF flyers. JG 27 as well as JG 53 was in action.
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Old 30th June 2008, 20:32
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Re: Looking for Spitfires losses over Sicily on the 10th July 1943

Hi Adriano
The book is not totally clear or sure about what brought some of the a/c down. The 2 Americans are recorded as shot down by "friendly" AA fire from US Navy ships.JL 375,F/O L J Connors RAAF ditched(out of fuel) but the pilot drowned,ER706,Lt E C Webb SAAF baled out due lack of fuel and was rescued, EP690, Capt G C le Roux was shot down by a Macchi 202 but his no 2(Webb in ER706)believed it was another Spitfire.JL182,F/Lt T W Savage was KIA by allied Flak or a Bf109, EP440,F/O E S Dicks-Sherwood baled out and was rescued after being shot down either Allied Flak or a Bf109,EN466, F/Lt W R Daddo-Langlois was also brought down by either Allied Flak or a Bf109,he was severely injured and lost his life when the rescue launch was sunk,EN148,F/O G B Blunn was Kia by flak or Bf109,ER 856 crashed after combat with a BF 109,F/O A N Snell became POW, EN295, F/Lt M R Rowland RNZAF was KIA in combat with a Bf109,JL361, F/O L A Stewart was rescued from the sea after combat with a Bf109. Unfortunately the book does not identify the German opponents nor does it give any details about the Allied pilots although I recognise the name Daddo-Langlois from Cull's books on Malta where Langlois is mentioned quite often
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Old 3rd July 2008, 20:13
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Re: Looking for Spitfires losses over Sicily on the 10th July 1943

Hi Dick!
Thanks a lot for the information! The grand-father of one of my colleagues down here in Brazil was nonetheless than Oblt Hans Roehrig from JG 53! So, I am making some researches about the subject! He did shot down a Spitfire that day!
Thanks for sharing your information with me!
PS: Unfortunately, I lost contact with this colleague of mine who is also a pilot, nowadays flying B-737. I will try to find it if he do possess any photographs about Oblt Roehrig with his family!
Thanks again!
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Old 4th July 2008, 00:57
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Re: Looking for Spitfires losses over Sicily on the 10th July 1943

Helo Adriano,

Oblt Hans Roehrig claimed one Spitfire @ 19:35 that day. In the same fight, the III/JG53 claimed other three Spitfire while the II/JG53 claimed two. It seems probable that both II and III JG53 were involved in combat with the 1435th Squadron, which lost two Spitfire.



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