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Old 12th May 2016, 21:29
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New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srTeisH09Ko

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Old 12th May 2016, 23:41
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Excellent, more Russian grave-robbers at work. Disgusting.
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Old 13th May 2016, 02:56
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

well...most of the wreck is going to the local museum...but I did not like how they handled his ring...should have left it with him, on his hand.

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Old 13th May 2016, 07:33
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

Sickening
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Old 13th May 2016, 11:52
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

Hello,

I have posted the news in question in the following topic:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=44975
In the topic the reference to the search group forum topic:
http://iskatelklada.tuapse.ru/forum/...109.html#19952

They try to find the pilot's relatives in Germany (incl. through Volksbund) to return them the pilot's personal property, including the ring. The ring was used obviously by several generations because diameter in rear part was changed. They tried to use ring image to identify the pilot because Bf109’s WNr was discovered later and because Volksbund’s initial identification through Dogtag number was incorrect for some unknown reason.

The search group members thought that Il-2 crashed in the place in question. It was planned to bury the mortal remains of the crew on the memorial cemetery with war honors as usual. But they has found the Bf109.
The rests of the founded German militaries will be buried on Volksbund cemetery probably, as usual.

The some forum members comments with labeling of unknown for them persons as “Russian grave-robbers” are disgusting certainly.

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Old 13th May 2016, 17:29
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

Crude and rude method however.

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Old 13th May 2016, 20:22
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

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Hello,

I have posted the news in question in the following topic:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=44975
In the topic the reference to the search group forum topic:
http://iskatelklada.tuapse.ru/forum/...109.html#19952

They try to find the pilot's relatives in Germany (incl. through Volksbund) to return them the pilot's personal property, including the ring. The ring was used obviously by several generations because diameter in rear part was changed. They tried to use ring image to identify the pilot because Bf109’s WNr was discovered later and because Volksbund’s initial identification through Dogtag number was incorrect for some unknown reason.

The search group members thought that Il-2 crashed in the place in question. It was planned to bury the mortal remains of the crew on the memorial cemetery with war honors as usual. But they has found the Bf109.
The rests of the founded German militaries will be buried on Volksbund cemetery probably, as usual.

The some forum members comments with labeling of unknown for them persons as “Russian grave-robbers” are disgusting certainly.

Best regards,
Andrey
I also think that some previous comments are too superficial, heavy and rude
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Old 13th May 2016, 22:16
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

When you have family members whose graves were desecrated by marauding bands of Soviets, you'll get your back up. These guys are definitely not archaeologists, judging from the way they handled this dig. Indefensible.
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Old 13th May 2016, 22:45
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

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These guys are definitely not archaeologists, judging from the way they handled this dig. Indefensible.
I've seen photos from other salvage operation in western europe and in many cases they showed the same way of working as what you see on that Russian recovery. Now a days, in western europe, it is much more regulated and salvage/recovery by hobby people became less. On the other hand, if these people did not recover the remains of the pilot he would still be were he crashed, now there is a change that relatives will know what happened and get back the personel effects.
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Is that Prestone (German equivalent) coolant in the hole?

At the 4:18 min mark (in the video) a green fluid appears in the bottom of the hole (that was dry before and dry after) and it's plainly visible until the 5:00 min mark. The liquid looks identical to the Prestone coolant then in use by American liquid-cooled aircraft, and I assume the backhoe punctured the header tank. Does this seem plausible?

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