Aufklärer DKiG Winners

[Andy Fletcher]

Could anyone tell what function the following aufklärer crew members performed. ie Bordfunker etc, and their fates.

Fw Schuster, Hans - ?(F)/???, DKiG 1/1/45 (is this the same individual who flew with 1(F)/123 and 4(F)/123, if yes then he was a Flugzeugführer)

Ofw Abele, Anton - 2/NAGr.16, DKiG 20/3/43

Obst Achilles, Paul - (F)/ObdL, DKiG 15/12/41

Ofw Aermes, Helmut - 5(H)/32, DKiG 12/12/43 (5(H)/32 disbanded 1/42!)

Olt Affeldt, Werner - 2(H)/11, DKiG 29/3/44

Olt Albers, Hans - 3(H)/14, DKiG 16/8/43

Olt Albrecht, Gerhard - 1(F)/100, DKiG 17/10/43

Olt Allexi, Josef - 5(H)/41, DKiG 17/10/43

Ofw Alschner, Heinrich - 2/NAGr.4, DKiG 17/10/43

Cheers

Andy Fletcher

[Tom Semenza]

Andy,

There was a Paul Achilles who flew with the Seefrontstaffel and Marine-Feld-Jasta V in the First World War. He claimed 8 victories in 1918. The very brief bio in "Above the Lines" by Franks, Bailey & Guest has nothing on him post-war, but this is such an unusual name that it must be the same person.

Tom

[Spanferkel]

Fw Schuster, Hans - ?(F)/???, DKiG 1/1/45 (is this the same individual who flew with 1(F)/123 and 4(F)/123, if yes then he was a Flugzeugführer)Flugzeugfuhrer/Beobachter

Ofw Abele, Anton - 2/NAGr.16, DKiG 20/3/43 Bordschutze

Obst Achilles, Paul - (F)/ObdL, DKiG 15/12/41 Flugzeugfuhrer

Ofw Aermes, Helmut - 5(H)/32, DKiG 12/12/43 (5(H)/32 disbanded 1/42!) Beobachter

Olt Affeldt, Werner - 2(H)/11, DKiG 29/3/44 Flugzeugfuhrer

Olt Albers, Hans - 3(H)/14, DKiG 16/8/43 Beobachter

Olt Albrecht, Gerhard - 1(F)/100, DKiG 17/10/43 Beobachter

Olt Allexi, Josef - 5(H)/41, DKiG 17/10/43 Beobachter

Ofw Alschner, Heinrich - 2/NAGr.4, DKiG 17/10/43 Beobachter


Sorry can't help you with their fates.

Jeremy

[Andy Fletcher]

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the info on Achilles. His rank (Obst) would also tie in with your info, as he would be quite senior by this time if it is the same individual.

Regards

Andy Fletcher

[Andy Fletcher]

Hi Jeremy,

Many thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. May I ask what your source is and is it available in english?

Thanks again

Andy Fletcher

[Spanferkel]

Hi Andy,

My source is "Die Trager Des Deutchen Kreuzes In Gold" by Horst Schiebert and published by Podzun Pallas, I believe it was from the early 80's no longer in print but copies do exist. The is another book "Die Trager Des Deutschen Kreuzes In Gold der Luftwaffe 1941-45, published byScherzer Militar Verlag, this is still available with a quick web search. Both books are in German.

I should note that I did see a few descrepancies with the dates of awarding for some of the above gents however even the two books are not consistant.

Jeremy

btw my wife and I have tipped a few pints of Beamish in your town of Cork.

[Andy Fletcher]

Hi Jeremy,

What is your opinion of Die Trager Des Deutschen Kreuzes In Gold der Luftwaffe 1941-45, would someone with only rudimentary German be able to make use of it (ie units, dates etc)?

Thanks again.

Best Regards

Andy Fletcher

P.S. I'm originally from England but since moving to Cork I've developed quite a taste for Murphy's.

Cheers

[Gordon Raddock]

Hi Andy


I am sure that you would find Die Träger des Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold der Luftwaffe 1941-1945 by Veit Scherzer very easy to interpret. The volume lists names of Deutsches Kreuz holders alpabetically and the unit they served with and the date they received the award and also by unit then alphabetically and date awarded. I secured my copy from Helion in the UK.

Cheers
Gordon

[Andy Fletcher]

Hi Gordon,

Thanks for that, you've convinced me (not as it took much), another one to add to the list.

Probably a silly question but does it state their crew positions (flugzeugfuehrer etc).

Cheers

Andy Fletcher

[Spanferkel]

Hi Andy,


Gordon's assessment of the book is spot on, I would have given the same response, worth the purchase. To your point regarding their job within the crew i.e. Beobachter etc. this is unfortunately lacking.

Cheers

Jeremy