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Old 21st July 2022, 21:40
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Re: Some enlarged and 'tweaked' known photos of Me 262s

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Old 27th July 2022, 11:32
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195. Like other Messerschmitt test aircraft at Lechfeld, Me 262 V9 W.Nr. 130004 "VI+AD" was used for experimentation. In December 1944 it was modified as the Hochgeschwindigkeitsjäger der Stufe I [HG I] with a Rennkabine, a tail plane swept back 40 degrees and modified wing leading edges. This blurry screenshot probably shows the first flight of this "high speed fighter" with its streamlined canopy at Lechfeld on 17 January 1945. To study the aerodynamics in flight, both sides of the fuselage from the front of the cockpit to the rear of the balkenkreuz were soon painted a dark colour to use tufts of cotton to indicate air flow. The tail configuration would prove to be unsatisfactory.


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196. In this enlargement of the photo in #193, V9 "VI+AD" is seen parked in front and to the left of the Whizzers' hangar at Lechfeld, virtually intact and upright.


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197. After the Whizzers had left Lechfeld on 10 June 1945, their usefulness over, the spare Me 262s were towed behind the hangar to lay derelict over the next winter before being scrapped. Tipped up, "VI+AD" is seen here among them. The werknummer 500853 of white-surround "29" can be seen on the tail of the Me 262 to the left.


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198. Another view of V9 "VI+AD" among the derelicts, with possible cable damage at the balkenkreuz. Note that a standard canopy and tail plane are now seen on it.
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Old 28th July 2022, 10:26
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Re: Some enlarged and 'tweaked' known photos of Me 262s

Thank you.
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Old 28th July 2022, 11:12
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Re: Some enlarged and 'tweaked' known photos of Me 262s

You're welcome, Dan. There's more to come.
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Old 3rd August 2022, 10:26
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Re: Some enlarged and 'tweaked' known photos of Me 262s

On page 58 of Brown etal., Messerschmitt Me 262 Production & Arado Ar 234 Final Operations, (JaPo, 2012), there is an aerial frontal view of the Whizzers' hangar showing most of the Me 262s that were used as spares along with the some of their identities. The exceptions were W.Nr.s 110956 and 113363 out of camera range to the left.

By chance I came across a short video segment that shows the situations of those on the left hand side of the hangar. Please excuse these very blurry screenshots that are taken from Wings of the Luftwaffe-Me-262. The brief sequence starts at 37:06. I include the following screenshots to illustrate the placement of the Me 262s on the left side.

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199. The cameraman is standing on the road in front of the Whizzers' hangar to the left of it and will pan through 90 degrees to the right. Seen here are Me 262 A-1a/U3 W.Nr. 500539 white-surround "33", left, and Me 262 V10 W.Nr. 130005 "VI+AE" both on their noses. Out of camera range immediately to the left was Me 262 V11 170074 "V074" and further off were Me 262 A-1s W.Nr. 110956 white "17"+S and W.Nr. 113363.
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Old 3rd August 2022, 10:46
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200. Panning right, two more Me 262s are seen about 30 meters from the front left corner of the hangar. Upright and with its engines intact is Me 262 V9 W.Nr. 130004 "VI+AD" and behind it is most likely Me 262 A-1a W.Nr. 500005 white "14"+S also with its engines but tipped on its nose. Just coming into view at the right is the aircraft adjacent to W.Nr. 500539 "33", Me 262 C-1a W.Nr. 130186 "V186".


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201. This is a good view of the size of the hangar. Note that "V186" lacks its Jumo 004 engines and has an emergency rocket-fuel dumping pipe below its rear fuselage.


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202. After panning right, four Me 262s are seen lined up on the left side behind the road in front of the left side of the hangar. From left to right are Me 262 C-1a W.Nr. 130186 "V186", an unknown Me 262 with a high demarcation of its upper camouflage, Me 262 A-1a W.Nr. 110526 white "15"+S of III./EJG 2 and finally Me 262 A-1a/U3 W.Nr. 500853 white-surround "29" of III./EJG 2. Out of camera range to the right across the road from white "15"+S is a noseless W.Nr. 170303 "V303" sitting on its tail.
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