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KGr100 He 111 damaged 14 August 1940
I am trying to establish the correct Staffel and call sign for a He 111 of KGr 100 that was damaged in an incident in the early hours of 14 August 1940. Parker's Luftwaffe Crash Archive lists the aircraft as He 111H 6N +-K of 2/KGr100, from which the gunner Uffz Friedel Dörner baled out and was taken prisoner near Balcombe in Sussex. Parry's BoB Combat Archive has a loss listing that identifies it as He111H-3 6N+HK of 2/KGr100, but in the text that describes the mission flown by KGr100, he states that "Two He111s had engine trouble, one jettisoned its bombs, and He111 Wn.5252, 6N+CA, force landed between Bénodet and Pointe de Mousterlin, France. One man baled out of 6N+BH over Balcombe, West Sussex." The Kracker Luftwaffe Archive has a biography of Dörner's pilot Fw Kaufmann, and assigns him and the rest off the crew to 1 Staffel with the call sign of 6N+BH with Werk No 6873. Which is correct: 2 Staffel 6N+HK or 1 Staffel 6N+BH?
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Re: KGr100 He 111 damaged 14 August 1940
This has been discussed before on 12 OCH and is confused. Dörner was apparently 2 Staffel. His intelligence report made no mention of the aircraft codes. The confusion with KGr 100 losses has been 14-15 Aug and 15-16 Aug. One came down on the beach at Hourtin (well known photo 6N+DH), 6N+DL force-landed near St Brieuc. Dörner was said to be in 6N+BH, Wk Nr 6873 and a flare ignited in the aircraft injuring Lt Paul Seebauer and Fw Adalbert Kneier but not the pilot Fw Kaufmann. Quite a but in The First Pathfinders" by Ken Wakefield which also adds to the confusion
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Re: KGr100 He 111 damaged 14 August 1940
Thanks Chris, especially for the tip re. The First Pathfinders – just ordered it on Amazon!
Peter |
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Re: KGr100 He 111 damaged 14 August 1940
Very old book (1981) but good for its time
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Re: KGr100 He 111 damaged 14 August 1940
I have also ordered Ulf Balke's Kampfgeschwader 100 Wiking book, with a pub date of 1981. Is there a more recent title on this unit? I have Manfred Griehl's German Elite Pathfinders: KG 100 in Action, 2016, but that is primarily a photo album.
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Re: KGr100 He 111 damaged 14 August 1940
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If you just want KGr. 100’s operations over Britain in 1940 then Ken Wakefield’s “Pfadfinder”(1999) is excellent but it might be hard to find. |
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Re: KGr100 He 111 damaged 14 August 1940
Thanks for the tip Nick, I have ordered the Wakefield book from Abe Books, they have a number of copies.
Peter |
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