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Old 6th May 2010, 14:25
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Losses for III.LG1

It seems that in HQ losses return at least for 1942 , all the data concerning the III.LG1 are missing, is there any alternate sources ??

Apart the books of Taghon.


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Re: Losses for III.LG1

Remi. No that is not correct. At least some III/LG 1 are there.

L1+BT A4 ´2011 MIA 30.07.42
L1+CT A4 ´2017 MIA 11.05.52
L1+EP A4 ´2024 MIA 27.09.42 (its given +EP in GQM, belonging II/LG 1 ?)
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Re: Losses for III.LG1

3+ for a full year of heavy fightings, not so much , Ltn Leschkat flew between april nd Okt 42 200+ missions 2 times forcelanded , not included in the losses looking at Taghon book it confirmed that for a big part of 1942 the losses are missing.

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Old 7th May 2010, 06:08
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Re: Losses for III.LG1

Hello Remi,

You are a little mistaken in assuming that "none" and "3+" losses by this Gruppen as proof of lots of "missing losses" - Maybe Taghon has not these (I understand you are meaning these are not in Peter Taghon´s book) - I have not studied this. First of all III/LG 1 was not in "a full year of fighting", only about just over four months (March to July/August). The Ju 88 A-4 L1+EP typed in my first post then likely should be listed with II Gruppen - as unit had long since left the East-Front for Germany - likely my (or QM) typo - sorry for that. I adwise also looking at and actually counting the "losses" first, before saying these are missing.

I see 27 listed on this website. (http://www.ww2.dk/air/lehr/lg1.htm) Checking were it was based and whose locations might indicate "intense fighting" - see here below (info from same website):

23.3.42 - 24.3.42 Jasianka Ju 88A
24.3.42 - 23.4.42 Nikolajew Ju 88A
23.4.42 - 12.7.42 Eupatoria Ju 88A
12.7.42 - 18.7.42 Poltawa Ju 88A
18.7.42 - 21.7.42 Eupatoria Ju 88A
21.7.42 - 4.8.42 Stalino Ju 88A
4.8.42 - 1.9.42 Heiligenbeil Ju 88A

Then it became III/KG 6 and based ....... in France.

Then we have the period we are looking for...

Losses in 03.42 - 0 + 0 = 0
Losses in 04.42 - 3 + 1 = 4
Losses in 05.42 - 8 + 3 = 11
Losses in 06.42 - 3 + 3 = 6
Losses in 07.42 - 4 + 2 = 6
Losses in 08.42 - 0 + 0 = 0
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Total ......................... 27

Those III/LG 1 mentioned in QM losses in year 1942 are: Ju 88 A-4´s W.Nr´s ´2011, 2017, 0154, 0155, 0159, 0173, 0194, 4031, 4092, 5564, 5584, 5589, 5621, 5622, 5629, 5634, 5643, 5645, 5657, 5758, 6772, 8597 (twice), 8598, 8607, 8624, 8625 (total 27 reports).

... but I can have missed out some (some can have been under 10%, certainly many were less than 100%), but the QM people seems to have done their work allright. I think you will agree.

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Re: Losses for III.LG1

Reading the book of Taghon, we hv cfm of the missing losses, I shall drop you a scan..

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