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Old 1st January 2005, 06:53
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IVAN KOZHEDUB

Was Ivan K ever shot down in any course of his sorties? From what I have seen he never was, but who knows for sure? If he was shot down, what where the circumstances? Thanks
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Old 3rd January 2005, 02:47
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I have never heard or read that this great Soviet Ace was shot down. During his 326 combat missions Kozhedub took part in 126 aerial combats, and achieved 62 kills! Quite an interesting figure to study.

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Old 3rd January 2005, 13:41
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Kozhedub

Soviet TsAMO documents indicate that Kozhedub was never shot down due to enemy action (fighters or Flak). During his wartime career he conducted several belly landings, but this was purely because of pilot mistakes and technical failure...

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Old 23rd January 2005, 23:32
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This is my first post here. So first I want to say Hi to all of you.

When Kozhedub was an inexperienced pilot in the first half of 1943, as he was fighting in one of his first air battles, his La-5 fighter was attacked from behind by Bf-110G from I/ZG 1. Obviously he wasn't attentive enough at that time, so his aircraft was severely damaged and after he landed it proved to be a writte-off. Unfortunately the date of this incident is unknown.
My source is a Polish book "Stalinowskie Sokoly" (Stalin's Falcons) by Robert Michulec.
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Old 24th January 2005, 07:33
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No, this is a wrong description. It happened in March 1943, Kozhedub landed his plane due to fuel shortage and mechnical problems...Documents give no indication that he was hit by enemy fire.

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This is my first post here. So first I want to say Hi to all of you.

When Kozhedub was an inexperienced pilot in the first half of 1943, as he was fighting in one of his first air battles, his La-5 fighter was attacked from behind by Bf-110G from I/ZG 1. Obviously he wasn't attentive enough at that time, so his aircraft was severely damaged and after he landed it proved to be a writte-off. Unfortunately the date of this incident is unknown.
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Old 24th January 2005, 14:15
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Attack of Bf 110 from behind

I remember this part of Kozedub´s memoir, although I do not recall that Bf 110 damaged his La-5. Anyway, bad surprize for young pilot. If I remember well this attack took place during Kozedub´s landing approach. isn´t it? :?:

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This is my first post here. So first I want to say Hi to all of you.

When Kozhedub was an inexperienced pilot in the first half of 1943, as he was fighting in one of his first air battles, his La-5 fighter was attacked from behind by Bf-110G from I/ZG 1. Obviously he wasn't attentive enough at that time, so his aircraft was severely damaged and after he landed it proved to be a writte-off. Unfortunately the date of this incident is unknown.
My source is a Polish book "Stalinowskie Sokoly" (Stalin's Falcons) by Robert Michulec.
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Old 24th January 2005, 15:25
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Re: Attack of Bf 110 from behind

This was described in his memoirs. But, actually documents of 14 GIAD show complete mess during the attack on airfield and clearly stress the fact that exept several La-5s damaged on the ground, there were no shot down or damaged planes in the air. Kozhedub and other few youngsters belly landed purely to their own mistakes and technical failures.




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I remember this part of Kozedub´s memoir, although I do not recall that Bf 110 damaged his La-5. Anyway, bad surprize for young pilot. If I remember well this attack took place during Kozedub´s landing approach. isn´t it? :?:
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Old 24th January 2005, 15:29
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Thanks

Thanks for clearing this point.

Are you active as writer :?: ... in terms of articals, books etc.

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Old 24th January 2005, 15:59
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Re: Thanks

Not yet:-) I just only have some future plans.

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Thanks for clearing this point.

Are you active as writer :?: ... in terms of articals, books etc.

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Old 27th January 2005, 20:34
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To continue in that great thread about Kozhedub. During the battle over the Dniepr Front, Kozhedub was really impressive, in 10 days, he downed 11 enemy planes!

Jan Bobek,

I can't wait until your website have an english version, it seems pretty interesting.

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