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Old 15th March 2009, 15:47
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Losses NJG 200

Does anybody have a list of the losses of NJG 200?
I'm also interested in the history of NJG 200.

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Old 16th March 2009, 20:02
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Re: Losses NJG 200

Evening Rolf,

The two books written by Michael Balss will be then of great intrest:
Deutsche Nachtjagd - Materialverluste in Ausbildung und Einsatz (ISBN: 3-925480-3-6 & Deutsche Nachtjagd - Personalverluste in Ausbildung und Einsatz (ISBN: unknown). Kind regards,

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Evening Rolf,

The two books written by Michael Balss will be then of great intrest:
Deutsche Nachtjagd - Materialverluste in Ausbildung und Einsatz (ISBN: 3-925480-3-6 & Deutsche Nachtjagd - Personalverluste in Ausbildung und Einsatz (ISBN: unknown). Kind regards,

Dirk
IMHO these books did not contain the losses of NJG200 and 100 or very incomplete
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Old 16th March 2009, 23:50
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IMHO these books did not contain the losses of NJG200 and 100 or very incomplete
If you believe that Balss's data are incomplete, does this mean that you know of a better source for these two units?
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Old 17th March 2009, 08:52
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Re: Losses NJG 200

Hi.

I have all the incidents (or at least the ones reported) for NJG 200.

They sustained 18 incidents reported in 1943, the remaining 23 incidents were reported in 1944, and I do not have detailed information on these.

Would be of interest to compare my records with Balss publication. Any volunteers??

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Not so much work to do, Balss work , is merely/exclusively based for 1944/45 on NVM , so need losses in personal, maybe there is none..

I just found these 2 coming from a Jägerblatt + uLTRA

17 4 44 5 NJG200 /Sewastopol/ Nacht einsatz BF110 8V+LN 100 2 ED17NAB
15 4 44 5 NJG200 Chersonnes FP Bombenw+Tiefangriff x Lindemann oblt f sta,ka,

+ Those for 1943
10 10 43 BM I NJG200 H Neuburg FP S JU88C-6 360209 60
1 11 43 4 5 NJG200 F Kertsch b, F J x Holzwarth friedrich
5 11 43 BM 7 NJG200 H Neuburg /donau A BF JU88C 720014 100 3 DL05NAA
10 9 43 4 4 NJG200 F X X BF110G-2 6391 DP+UM 100 1 1 DI10NAA
11 9 43 BM 4 NJG200 H Feldkirchen west, N MSTO JU88C-2 880740 85 x Hauschild hans
11 10 43 BM 4 NJG200 H krossno b, MSTO BF110F-4 3574 15
11 10 43 BM 8 NJG200 H Neuburg FP BF JU88C-6 360209 45 ER
12 9 43 BM 4 NJG200 H Feldkirchen MSTO JU88C-2 740 85
12 11 43 4 5 NJG200 F Bagerowo BA FJ BF110G-2 5225 30
13 9 43 BM 4 NJG200 H Neuburg FP A BF JU88C-6 360198 100
23 9 43 4 5 NJG200 F PQ 6663 A see LFK BF110G-2 6248 100 2 DI23NAB
23 11 43 BM 7 NJG200 H Neuburg FP RSCH JU88C-6 360415 35 ER
23 11 43 BM 7 NJG200 H Neuburg FP BF rollen JU88C-6 360450 20
24 8 43 BM 4 NJG200 H Neuburg sud, A BF JU88C-6 360164 90 2 DH24NAB
26 8 43 BM 4 NJG200 H Neuburg FP S TM JU88C-6 360209 30
27 9 43 4 5 NJG200 F PQ 66853 Kertsch b, Ger, abgesch, russ, fz BF110G-2 6392 100 x Kociok josef
29 9 43 BM 4 NJG200 H Weichering MSTO JU88A-6 360166 100 3 DI29NAA
30 10 43 4 9 NJG200 F Kertsch b, F FL BF110G-2 6384 35 x

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Re: Losses NJG 200

Remi

Can you check your details for 1943 again

You list
WNr 360209 three times. First on 26.8.43 with 30% damage (which I can buy). Secondly on 10.10.43 with 60% damage and finally on 11.10.43 with 45% damage. The two latter one's sounds not very reasonable, one yes but not both...
WNr 880740 (aka 740) twice. First on 11.9.43 with 85% damage and then on 12.9.43 also with 85% damage. Same unit and same place...

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Re: Losses NJG 200

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If you believe that Balss's data are incomplete, does this mean that you know of a better source for these two units?
I mean, I can not remember, Balss first volume contains any nformation from NJG100/200. From the second volume I have in my records only:


25.9.1943 2./NJG 100 Feindflug Ju 88C-6 v v v Ursache unbekannt, 100 %

23.10.1943 3./NJG 100 H Do 217J verw-verw-+-++(2 gefallen) Motorstörung, 80 %, Toltoschin
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Dear Stig,

These data brut from QM returns, first you collect then you correct or complete if needed, seems I just made half of the work..., to give you an hint of how big is the work, the total losses for the Lwf 1939-1945 amount to a bit less than 140.000 pcs ...

WNr 360209 three times. First on 26.8.43 with 30% damage (which I can buy). Secondly on 10.10.43 with 60% damage and finally on 11.10.43 with 45% damage. The two latter one's sounds not very reasonable, one yes but not both...
30 % is correct 60+45 % same event reported twice
WNr 880740 (aka 740) twice. First on 11.9.43 with 85% damage and then on 12.9.43 also with 85% damage. Same unit and same place...
Same event night of 12/13 sept. reported twice
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I mean, I can not remember, Balss first volume contains any nformation from NJG100/200. From the second volume I have in my records only: [etc.]
Night fighter units operating mainly in the East may not have suffered so many losses from enemy action. The USSR did not have a big force of Mosquitoes and Beaufighters to hunt them like the RAF did in the West. But even so you would expect regular losses to accidental causes in any flying unit.
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