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Old 9th November 2007, 19:28
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II/JG52 at Leningrad 06Sep41

While looking at allaces.ru I ran a cross a qoute from the book "The Butchers of Yu.A. The Guardsmen of baltiki of winged" by I.I. Tsapev & V.N. Konev (Delta NB 2006). It listed for the Leningrad area that 7 I-16'a of the 13IAP KBF attempted to flee into the clouds from Bf-109's and were shot down one by one at 18:40 (Moscow). This was the renewed offensive date against Leningrad.

JFV 6/II lists for that date the following.
16:40 Stab II Hptm Erich Woitke I-18 (17) Kjarbusstzi
16:42 4. Oblt Siegfried Simch I-18 (12)
16:43 Stab II Hptm Erich Woitke I-18 (18)
16:47 4. Oblt Johannes Steinhoff I-18 (38) Bahnhof Makowo
16:48 4. Oblt Sigfried Simsch I-18 (13)
16:49 Stab II Oblt Carl Hartmann I-18 (13)
16:50 4. Fw Bernard Gallena I-18 (1)
These are the possible victors but the time would have to be factored in using Berlin time.
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Re: II/JG52 at Leningrad 06Sep41

Much apprecieated,

Keep up the good work,

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Re: II/JG52 at Leningrad 06Sep41

That was a real massacre... .

I wonder on the other hand, how it was possible that other fights 7 vs. 7 ended with "only" one A/C shot down, like the story of 7 hungarian 109 vs. 7 VVS-Yaks in another recent thread...

Maybe in th eincedent described here, there was a whole Staffel from JG52 involved and the "clouds" were only one small cloud or whatever... poor pilots.
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