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Do 217-E-4 werknr 4314
Hello,
Can anyone provide me with details about the crew and mission ?. I,ve got a report from Feldluftpark 5/111 Holland date 8-1--43 wich described von feindflug gegen England nicht zuruck. date 3-1-43 Werknr 4314 Kennzeichen U5 +KT 38 starts and KG2 .But no further info. Thank,s in advance Harrie |
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Re: Do 217-E-4 werknr 4314
Target Hull, hit by Flak, crash-landed and burnt out by crew at Out Newton, Yorkshire 2120 hrs. Uffz Anton Ries, Ogefr Horst Küster, Uffz Arno Salz & Uffz Alfred Muschiol all POW
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Re: Do 217-E-4 werknr 4314
Hi Chris,
Thank you very much for fast reply and information much appreciated ! This crew was very Lucky for made an crash-landing in unknown enemy terrain ,and surviving all . Harrie |
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Re: Do 217-E-4 werknr 4314
hello harrie,
someone has a typo ... "Reis" not "Ries"!? source: http://www.aircrewremembered.com/Kra.../?q=Reis+Anton regards ghost
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Re: Do 217-E-4 werknr 4314
According to Balke and LCA Vol 10 Ries
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Re: Do 217-E-4 werknr 4314
chris,
according to https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=202513 Quote:
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Re: Do 217-E-4 werknr 4314
His name was Anton Ries as written by Balke. The same writing is recorded for a crash on 19.08.42 with 5./KG 2.
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Re: Do 217-E-4 werknr 4314
Gen.Qu. loss return 5 Jan 1943 item 131:
F Uffz Ries, Anton. Regards Leo |
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Re: Do 217-E-4 werknr 4314
i am inclined to believe you all ...
but then why are all these sources wrong!? Quote:
regards ghost
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Re: Do 217-E-4 werknr 4314
A pretty good reason Ghost is that you are quoting second hand sources while our friends Gerhard and Leo are quoting or know first hand sources.
You even quote a third hand source here, the aviation safety net, which can't even quote a second hand source correct, namely Ulf Balke. Also Ulf Balke has always struck me as a very serious researcher, so quoting him directly is also pretty safe to do. When using second or third hand sources the risk for faults increase and without knowing from where your quoted sources has taken their details I am inclined to believe far more in Chris, Gerhard and Leo. Cheers Stig |
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