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Old 11th April 2020, 15:45
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Who flew Ar 234 on 5 May 1945, Schnabel or Schilling?

From Jan Horn, KG 76: Die Chronik..., (2019), p. 309:

"In Leck machen sich am Morgen des 5. Mai 1945 neun Flugzeugführer, die Eine einsatzklare Ar 234 haben, unter Führung von Oblt. Kolm zur Überführung nach Stavanger-Sola, Norwegen, fertig. Es sind dies folgende Flugzeugführer:
Hptm. Hellmuth Schnabel, Staka 7./KG 76 …"

Horn goes on to identify the other eight as Dreisbach, Ullrich, Kolm, Radermacher, Frank, Rieffel, Thimm and Eckerlein. In a paragraph below he says:
"...Es ist bis heute nicht klar, ob Hptm. Schilling oder Ofw Ullrich bei diesem flug nach Triebwerksproblemen mit ihrer Maschine in die Nordzee stürzten. …"

On consulting his appendix on commanding officers p. 317 I learned that Hptm. Hellmut Schilling had been CO of 7. Staffel from 11 Feb to 30 Mar 1945 but that Ltn. Günter Schnabel, ex T.O. of II. Gruppe, was appointed Staffelführer on 1 April 1945. Horn had scrambled the names and ranks on p.309.

Therefore, my question:

Was it Schnabel or Schilling who was the ninth pilot on 5 May? Did they both survive the war?

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Old 11th April 2020, 16:35
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Re: Who flew Ar 234 on 5 May 1945, Schnabel or Schilling?

Have you tried looking here for the names: https://www.volksbund.de/graebersuche.html?
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Old 11th April 2020, 19:01
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Re: Who flew Ar 234 on 5 May 1945, Schnabel or Schilling?

Thanks, Nick.

Ltn. Günter Schnabel may be the pilot that you referred to in the "1.(F)/100 and the Arado Ar 234: January - May 1945" in the Ghostbombers website as mentioned in a decryption of 23 January 1945 as delivering T5+GH.

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