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Old 17th December 2021, 22:23
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Re: Photo Spad

Clint

Not much help here I'm afraid, but if you look at the flip side of the photo there is a date listed, 7.6.1917

The text is extremely fuzzy so not even tried to understand what it says.
No idea, of course, who wrote the date, ie if it is contemporary or done by some collector afterwards.

But if the date is correct SPA 98 is wrong since that unit was not created, as N 98, until 1 Jan 1918.

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Old 18th December 2021, 10:58
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Re: Photo Spad

Hi Stig,


Thanks for the response.It looks like its back to the start on this one. I didn't look at the rear of the photo,but as you say the date is too early for SPA.98.Unfortunately,checking traditions-air.fr it is the only unit I've seen with the diagonal fuselage band with a darker coloured central strip.


Hopefully one of the board's french readers can assist both with the unit id and the type of Spad shown.


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Old 18th December 2021, 14:33
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Yep Clint

I agree, I cannot find any other unit using such bands/stripes.
Tricky one....

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Old 18th December 2021, 16:06
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Re: Photo Spad

Stig-Clint this is SPAD VII B1524 23 Sqn. (assigned to Cochran-Patrick ) shot down by Paul Aue ( Jasta 10) 7 June 1917 near Menin. The POW pilot was 2/Lt. F W Illingworth on an offensive patrol. It also had a red-white striped cowling front. 23 had various fuselage markings.



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Old 18th December 2021, 16:51
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Hi Nick,


Thanks. I should have believed the seller when he said Englisches Flugzeug.The markings just 'looked' french.


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Old 18th December 2021, 17:25
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Thanks Nick

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Old 22nd December 2023, 19:23
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Re: Photo Spad

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a Spad S.VII captioned as being flown by Belgian ace Edmond Thieffrey.


https://www.ebay.de/itm/375136348448...EAAOSwQwhlhMIp


There are also two photos of Thieffrey as a captive of FA (A) 227.




https://www.ebay.de/itm/375136350783...4AAOSwuIRlhMSN


https://www.ebay.de/itm/375136350783...4AAOSwuIRlhMSN



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Old 22nd December 2023, 23:32
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Re: Photo Spad

Rather odd to see Thieffry more or less unwounded in these photos

According to Walter Pieters he was treated in three different hospitals after being shot down

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Old 10th March 2024, 10:02
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Re: Photo Spad

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a series of photos of Spad S.XVI of SPAbi 53


https://www.ebay.com/itm/28575624688...Bk9SR5732PfEYw


The photos of the machine standing on its nose have been seen before and are stated to be S.9484 by Albin Denis.


http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escad...adrille053.htm


Perhaps the photos of the aircraft with 'Julot' on its tail are the same machine at a different stage in its career,perhaps a different machine.


Hopefully at least some of these photos have not been previously seen as the seller has other photos of WW.I aircraft which are somewhat familiar


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dkr...+photo&_sop=10


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Old 11th April 2024, 12:05
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Re: Photo Spad

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of the crashed Spad of Alan Nutt of the 94th Aero Squadron.Hopefully this is not already well known.Was this S.4505?


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/166700455...Bk9SR6rR7cjZYw


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