Strange opening on the Bf 109G pywood instrument panel

[bavgan]

Hello,

I am working on a CAD drawing of a Bf 109G plywood instrument panel. On the bottom right corner of the instrument panel there is a square shaped opening. Does anybody know which instruments were installed on these locations of the 109 panels?

TIA

Batur

[Revi16]

I believe you're referring to the "Combined coolant exit and oil intake temperture indicator".

Regard,
Mike

[bavgan]

Thanks Mike, but I guess it is not. Here is the screenshot of the NX3 drawing. It was made from a Messerschmitt factory blueprint. So, no fiction.

I know that some 16xxx series Bf 109G-6s had the same plywood panel of the G-4. So, this panel might have been designed for the G-6. The original blueprint of this panel was dated November 1942, which makes the G-6 panel hypothesis possible thinking that the first G-6s were produced in February 1943.

I have the factory blueprint of G-6 instrument panel as well, and it was dated June 1943!

About the square opening, can it be for a FuG instrument?

[harrison987]

Hi Batur,

I have never seen anything like that. It is possible it was to mount equipment for the FuG125 or similar, but for sure this is an unknown set-up. there are other "extra" holes as well in this panel...

hmmmmmmm...

mike

[bavgan]

Hi Mike.

It has the same design with the metal panel. Isnt it? As for the extra holes, I guess you mean the M19 opening. I attach a well known photo of a plywood panel. Its left side is definetely the same with my one. Check the trager seen on the far left. This is the arm of the early metal trager. Still, it does not make sense because some early G-6s and probably the G-6s used in the factory tests had the metal trager as well. Moreover, the Revi 12 was removed. Probably by purpose to take the photo. So, this is definetely a factory boy!

Anyway, a strange opening!

Good day,

Batur

[ChrisS]

Hi Batur

I have this picture of W.Nr. 163 269 if it helps, I think it shows your panel.

Or this other one.

Cheers

Chris

[George Hopp]

For what it's worth, here is a drawing of the prototype wooden instrument panel as at February 1943. Your panel simply has the square unit extension, which I think may be the contents of the auxiliary armament panel previously placed directly beneath the main instrument panel. Chris's photos show this nicely.

I hope it's of some help,
George

[bavgan]

Thanks a lot for the photos. cockpit_bf109g6_03.jpg seems to be the same panel but with a little modification. It is clearly updated to G-6 standard by the addition of a metal plate on the upper right corner.

Thanks.

Batur

[harrison987]

HI Batur,

The problem with your panel is it is missing the holes for the temperature Switch and MW50/AFN2 Switch. There are also "exta" holes in the main panel which are not on a normal Me109. Also, because the proporsions are off, (hole for the Magneto Switch, for example), it is almost impossible to tell what should be in that square hole. Looking at it, it seems like it is around the same size as a BG25...but for sure the BG25 would never have been moved to that position.

Chris' 2nd photo shows an FS16 Radio Frequency Switch eblow the Dual Pressure Guage...it is posisble it was designed to mount that...before they decided on the Packetschalter (round frequency swhich that sits in this position on mid-late me109's)





Mike