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Old 28th May 2008, 09:28
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Luftwaffe crew abbreviations

Hi all, I am a little bit confused by different meaning in different sources so I would like to ask for help with abbreviations used for fuctions in Luftwaffe crews like F, B, BS, BM, BF.

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Old 28th May 2008, 09:46
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Re: Luftwaffe crew abbreviations

F = Flugzeugführer = pilot
B = Beobachter = observer
BS = Bordschütze = air gunner
BM = Bordmechaniker = flight engineer
BF = Bordfunker = wireless operator
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Old 28th May 2008, 09:56
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Re: Luftwaffe crew abbreviations

Its possible also to meet FF for Flugzeugführer (pilot) and BB for Bordbeobachter (Observer)

means the same

In british documents

WT means BF (Bordfunker) = wireless transmission
AG means BS (Bordschütze) = air gunner
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Old 28th May 2008, 15:42
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Re: Luftwaffe crew abbreviations

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Its possible also to meet FF for Flugzeugführer (pilot) and BB for Bordbeobachter (Observer)

means the same
Yes Ff is also a commom abbrev. for flugzeugführer

Never seen BB as an abbrev. for beobachter but Bo (or BO) is commonly used.
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Re: Luftwaffe crew abbreviations

And then there is:
BO: Beobachter (often lead Beobachter)
Bo: Hilfsbeobachter (Assistant Observer)
Hf: Horchfunker (Radio intercept operator)
Bw: Bordwart (Onboard mechanic)
A: Agent (Agent)
Sch: Schüler (Student)
TP: Techniker (Technician)
PM: Prüfmeister (Maintenance Inspector)
Kber: Kriegsberichterstatter (War correspondent)
Met: Meterologe (Meteorologist)

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Many thanks to all chaps for additional information.

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Old 28th May 2008, 21:37
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Re: Luftwaffe crew abbreviations

Hi

Have also seen Bombenschütze as the full term for Bs.

In this meaning I would guess the relevant english term would be Bombardier?

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Have also seen Bombenschütze as the full term for Bs.

In this meaning I would guess the relevant english term would be Bombardier?

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In American it would be. In English, it was bomb-aimer. (If you're English, a Bombardier is a corporal in the Royal Artillery).
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Re: Luftwaffe crew abbreviations

BMF Bordmessfunker, Operator for SN-2 in Ju 88 with four Crewmembers.
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