We need some help regarding KG 40 Bordeaux-Merignac

[edNorth]

While at it, I seek good He 111 H-5 images, especially 4./KG 40 whilst in South-Norway or West of France, first half and summer 1941 (not them on night attacks over Britain) but them on shipping recce or strike. These often flew in wide arch west of Ireland and Northen-Ireland and landed Norway, them flying back. Known codes include F8+AM, F8+CM, F8+EM, F8+GM, F8+LM, F8+MM, F8+NM, F8+OM, F8+PM, F8+QM (10) altho 15 were on strength at one time point.

I put up a question mark on referring to unit KG 40 as operating Torpedo Bombers.

[hans_wittman]

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

Many Luftwaffe units kept one or two older aircraft for use as transports and for courier duties.

Hi Nick,

Thank for clarifying the matter.

Regards Hans

[hans_wittman]

Originally Posted by sidney

Hi Hans,

Although Nick Beale already answered your query, please also refer to Ed North's post No.3, more specifically to the following: "... He 111s used by KG 40 ... were of many marks, both very early (B and/or E as known from very rare photos) and later versions (H-5 to H-6)..."

In my post I just wanted to illustrate his point since I have a copy of some of these photos of the older He 111 serving with KG 40.

Regards,
Sinisa

Hi Sidney,

Yes i saw that KG 40 mainly used He 111 h-5 and some of them were transfer to Norway and they were torpedoes bomber so it might be plausible that they were use against shipping or to train pilots in the Bay of Biscay and also they used or test guided missiles.

But the info is pretty hard to come by.

Regards Hans

[hans_wittman]

Originally Posted by Graham Boak

These are clearly not As, having the late engine installation. Es are possible. An assumption would be Js, as these were supposedly built for torpedo-bomber use, but there does not seem to be any strong mounting for the torpedoes visible under the fuselage.

Hi Graham,

The pvc rack for torpedo mounting were very quick and easy to install on any he 111, that was the main versatility of the 111.

Regards Hans

[hans_wittman]

Originally Posted by edNorth

While at it, I seek good He 111 H-5 images, especially 4./KG 40 whilst in South-Norway or West of France, first half and summer 1941 (not them on night attacks over Britain) but them on shipping recce or strike. These often flew in wide arch west of Ireland and Northen-Ireland and landed Norway, them flying back. Known codes include F8+AM, F8+CM, F8+EM, F8+GM, F8+LM, F8+MM, F8+NM, F8+OM, F8+PM, F8+QM (10) altho 15 were on strength at one time point.

I put up a question mark on referring to unit KG 40 as operating Torpedo Bombers.

Hi Ed,

Thank that some new info i didn't came across yet, will try to google them intensively to see if i came across something.

Regards Hans

[Chris Goss]

KG 40 did not operate the Me 410 nor did it carry out torpedo missions over the Bay

[gogh]

given earlier on this board by Jim P.

"Re: KG40 HE111 Loss 21.3.42
He 111H-6, 4375, Popp, Fw. Ludwig, , III., 9., KG 40, gelbeE, F8+ET, VF+WL*, , 21-Mar-42, Interned with crew due to Luftkampf with Beaufighter from 254 Sq. (Schand)., , Lfl.3/Atlantik, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #5)-Vol.8; The Blitz, Then & Now, III, p.99, , See südwestlich Bull Rock Lighthouse, County Cork, Eire, 100%, F, Bo Uffz. Heinrich Kapp, Bf Uffz. Adolf Ölkers & Bs Gefr. Rudolf Ippich, ,"

[hans_wittman]

Originally Posted by Chris Goss

KG 40 did not operate the Me 410 nor did it carry out torpedo missions over the Bay

Hi Chris,

I took the information from this very credible source :

In late 43 began conversion to Me 410 destroyers. In 6.43 redesignated V./KG2

http://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kg40.htm

For the 111 h i also found nothing regarding torpedoes operations so far

Regards Hans

[hans_wittman]

Originally Posted by gogh

given earlier on this board by Jim P.

"Re: KG40 HE111 Loss 21.3.42
He 111H-6, 4375, Popp, Fw. Ludwig, , III., 9., KG 40, gelbeE, F8+ET, VF+WL*, , 21-Mar-42, Interned with crew due to Luftkampf with Beaufighter from 254 Sq. (Schand)., , Lfl.3/Atlantik, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #5)-Vol.8; The Blitz, Then & Now, III, p.99, , See südwestlich Bull Rock Lighthouse, County Cork, Eire, 100%, F, Bo Uffz. Heinrich Kapp, Bf Uffz. Adolf Ölkers & Bs Gefr. Rudolf Ippich, ,"

Hi Gogh,

Thank for the info

Regards Hans

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by hans_wittman

Hi Chris,

I took the information from this very credible source :

In late 43 began conversion to Me 410 destroyers. In 6.43 redesignated V./KG2

http://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kg40.htm

For the 111 h i also found nothing regarding torpedoes operations so far

Regards Hans

Two points here: (1) Chris is an even more credible source; (2) converting to the Me 410 and then being renamed as V./KG 2 does not mean that KG 40 ever used the type on operations over the Atlantic.