Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 8th June 2019, 12:19
Ben McKinnon Ben McKinnon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 41
Ben McKinnon is on a distinguished road
Oberfeldwebel Werner Borner

Hi everyone, I was looking into Oberfeldwebel Werner Borner and looks lie he had quite a career, apparently whilst a radio operator in a Do17, he shot down Peter Townsend in his hurricane and was later awarded a German cross in gold, he apparently also filmed the attack on Poland by air showing the results of bombs, which was then shown to Adolf Hitler.
The one question I have is apparently he was awarded an Ehrenpokal, however I can see no record of this does anyone have any information ? ...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10th June 2019, 17:09
Chris Goss's Avatar
Chris Goss Chris Goss is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 11,222
Chris Goss has a spectacular aura aboutChris Goss has a spectacular aura about
Re: Oberfeldwebel Werner Borner

He was commissioned and apparently got the EP 21 Feb 41 and the DKiG Oct 42
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11th June 2019, 05:44
Ben McKinnon Ben McKinnon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 41
Ben McKinnon is on a distinguished road
Re: Oberfeldwebel Werner Borner

Thanks Chris I had a look at the Luftwaffe officer career summaries which seemed a little bit all over the place regarding promotions; and gave no mention of the EP, according to Peter Townsend he addressed him as Colonel, so perhaps he may have served in post war Germany's Air Force. As he finished the war as a Major. Was the EP listed anywhere officially as I believe he earned it as an Oberfeldwebel in 4/kg2 ?
Regards
Ben
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11th June 2019, 08:11
Chris Goss's Avatar
Chris Goss Chris Goss is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 11,222
Chris Goss has a spectacular aura aboutChris Goss has a spectacular aura about
Re: Oberfeldwebel Werner Borner

It would have been listed officially but is not listed in the EP book but is listed in Balke's history of KG 2
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11th June 2019, 10:55
Ben McKinnon Ben McKinnon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 41
Ben McKinnon is on a distinguished road
Re: Oberfeldwebel Werner Borner

Thanks for the information Chris especially the reference from KG2.
One last question I see they have made mention of him being in KG2 Do 217 E-4
(U5+KM) shot up repeatedly by night fighters 70 KM N of Norwich, unhurt.
Do you know the date for this attack ?

Thanks again
Ben
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11th June 2019, 11:13
Chris Goss's Avatar
Chris Goss Chris Goss is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 11,222
Chris Goss has a spectacular aura aboutChris Goss has a spectacular aura about
Re: Oberfeldwebel Werner Borner

21-22 Jul 42. Do 217 E-4, 5462, U5+KM. 5% damage Ofw Otto Moese (F), Oblt Werrner Borner (B), Ofw Jakob Ziegelmaier (BM) uninjured; Uffz Robert Heller (BF) wounded. The only claim I can see that night was Plt Off Fisher of 151 Sqn who destroyed a Do 217 so probably 1./KG 2 flown by Ofw Heinrich Woplers. This will also help:


https://www.alexautographs.com/mobil...entoryid=38911

Last edited by Chris Goss; 11th June 2019 at 12:33.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11th June 2019, 13:00
Ben McKinnon Ben McKinnon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 41
Ben McKinnon is on a distinguished road
Re: Oberfeldwebel Werner Borner

Thanks Chris, have made my day !
Just got to keep my eye out for a photo of him, there is one later in life with Peter Townsend, apparently they kept in touch well after the war and he is mentioned in Townsends book as the man who shot him down.

Thanks again
ben
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11th June 2019, 13:10
Chris Goss's Avatar
Chris Goss Chris Goss is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 11,222
Chris Goss has a spectacular aura aboutChris Goss has a spectacular aura about
Re: Oberfeldwebel Werner Borner

I have a photo of the Do 17 after it had crash-landed back at St Leger but none of him
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11th June 2019, 13:25
Ben McKinnon Ben McKinnon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 41
Ben McKinnon is on a distinguished road
Re: Oberfeldwebel Werner Borner

Yes please is it from that well known book ?

Again thanks
Ben
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11th June 2019, 13:27
Chris Goss's Avatar
Chris Goss Chris Goss is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 11,222
Chris Goss has a spectacular aura aboutChris Goss has a spectacular aura about
Re: Oberfeldwebel Werner Borner

What well known book? It is an original from my collection and has been used in a number of articles/books by me
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Luftwaffe pilot Werner Lvsche on U-219 ? PlaneKrazy Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 8 12th January 2024 13:02
Krause Werner III./JG3 - more information ? KrisJG3 Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 2 10th May 2019 22:17
Rare pictures of Werner " Vati " Mölders aircraft and the russian front Stab I./JG 51 - Mölders Books and Magazines 9 24th February 2018 12:47
Oberfeldwebel Werner Topfer, can anyone help Ben McKinnon Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 3 29th September 2017 06:30
CO list of Schlacht Gruppen, 39-45 - looking for assistance. Evgeny Velichko Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 15 15th November 2013 12:29


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:02.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net